--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Judy writes: > > > > > > > And on the other hand, he's telling them that > > > > > > > they cannot trust their experience that they are > > > > > > > not enlightened and ought instead to accept the > > > > > > > authorities' assertion that they are already > > > > > > > enlightened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom T writes: > > > > > > > The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it > is > > > an > > > > > idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > <snore> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. > It > > is > > > > > > > profoundly based in the physiology. > > > > > > > > > > > > So is the experience of ignorance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea of not being enlightened > > > > > > > is a story. Tell me where and how that idea "I am not > > awake" > > > > > > > is known in the gut of the physiology. Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > That's exactly where it *is* known, of course. > > > > > > > > > > I repeat last week's statement: "Stress is an excuse." > > > > > > > > Did you think you were responding to a post that was > > > > talking about stress? > > > > > > Insomuch as "stress" refers to anything that prevents one from > > being > > > enlightened spontaneously once their body reaches full maturity, > > just > > > about ALL the enlightened-oriented discussions in this forum have > > > some reference to "stress." > > > > This wasn't about what prevents one from being > > enlightened but rather what "ignorance" feels > > like in the body. > > I would think that that still involves a peripheral discussion > of "stress" using MMY's definition.
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