--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukra69@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote: > > > > This post is even scarier than his previous one in the > > extent of its fantasizing. > > > > But the motivation for it is clear. We all know that > > the only reason Barry is so fascinated by this series > > is that it gives him the opportunity to put down the > > people he doesn't like on FFL, especially those who > > have dared to talk about what they consider their > > enlightenment. > > > > He didn't get the reaction he wanted to his first > > posts, so now he's doubling down on the putdowns. But > > those putdowns have become so extreme, so off the wall, > > his descriptions of behavior so completely unlike > > anybody's actual behavior here, the histories he > > relates such gross misrepresentations of what actually > > happened, > It is not though. It is honest and accurate. Yes, yes Stephen - it's right, and so, so, sooooooooooo scary - quick - go and take shelter in your TM and psychology manuals before I bitch slap you in my enlightened mania.
> that he's clearly deep into deluded territory. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > <snip> > > > Seriously, is there anyone on this forum willing to step up > > > to the plate and say that they actually *believe* that Robin, > > > Jim and Ravi are actually enlightened? If so, are you > > > comfortable with the day-to-day way that they conduct > > > themselves, as a kind of "demo" or role model of what > > > enlightenment should be or will be for you when you achieve > > > it? Does their example make you want to become all enlightened > > > yourself? Honestly curious. > > > > Well, he's not "honestly curious," of course. He's hoping > > to inspire responses he can use as more fodder for his > > putdowns. > > > > But I'll answer his questions straightforwardly. (After > > all, "curious" as he pretends to be, he won't read my > > responses, so I'm "safe.") > > > > I have *no idea* whether the three of them are (or were, > > in Robin's case) actually enlightened. I wouldn't be > > shocked if they were, I wouldn't be shocked if they > > weren't. It isn't of concern to me either way. > > > > I'm completely comfortable with the day-to-day way they > > conduct themselves. They're all very smart and thoughtful, > > they all have a good sense of humor; I find most of their > > posts pretty interesting. > > > > But I don't see them as "demos" or "role models" of > > enlightenment because I don't think any such thing exists. > > I think the notion that it does generates serious > > confusion about the nature of enlightenment. > > > > (It also, of course, generates opportunities for those > > who are troubled by their own failure to achieve > > enlightenment to attack those who consider themselves > > to have achieved it.) > > > > The "example" of these three has ZERO influence on my > > motivation to continue to meditate and see where it > > takes me. I've very much enjoyed the journey so far. > > >
