On Oct 19, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Vaj wrote:

> 
> On Oct 19, 2011, at 5:05 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> 
>> Ravi:
>> Curtis, How can we judge something without understanding the time, place,
>> context and the people that were being addressed to? 
>> 
>> ME: I do, it was an ancient system of medicine that was the best they could 
>> do then. Now we can do better. Not perfect. But better. They didn't 
>> understand the circulation of blood then. They thought the heart functioned 
>> as we now understand our brain functions. We straightened that out. That is 
>> progress in understanding.
> 
> 
> The important thing IME is to not under-appreciate what these texts are 
> describing. So for example they may describe the solar eagle-Garuda in terms 
> much like a radiant sun (or phoenix) - and their opposite, the serpent Nagas, 
> as opposites. But until you realize that the Sanskrit word "naga" also means 
> lead, only when you realize they are very precisely describing 
> electromagnetic radiation and lead shielding, do you get that these ancients 
> are describing, from samadhic inquiry into reality, something only relatively 
> recently understood by science. There are many, many similar examples. For 
> example how would an ancient yogi know that to make zinc bioavailable, it 
> needs to be ingested in the presence of certain biochemicals? Well, somehow 
> they did. Same with coral calcium. It's a long list. Plastic surgeons still 
> pay homage to Sushruta as father of their art. Some say the oriental martial 
> arts and acupuncture originate from kalarippayattu.
> 
> Like I said, it's a long list.
> 
> While I think it's a good thing to be skeptical after being burned by a phony 
> guru, it's also important to remain open-minded enough to see the actual 
> viable wisdom in the systems of learning they talked about. It's humbling 
> when you realize: most of it's never been translated into western languages, 
> and the stilted Brahmin belief in brahman has relegated much of it to the 
> dust-bins of time.

Well, ain't it a shame
That our short little memories
Never seem to learn
The message of history
We keep makin' the same mistakes
Over and over and over and over again
And then we wonder why
We're in the shape we're in

Good ol' boys down at the bar
Peanuts and politics
They think they know it all
They don't know much of nothing
Even if one of them was to read the newspaper
Cover-to-cover
That ain't what's going on
Journalism's dead and gone

Frail grasp on the big picture
Light fading and the fog is getting thicker
It's a frail grasp on the big picture
Dark ages

You my love-drunk friend
All that red wine and candlelight
Soulful conversations
That go on until the dawn
How many times can you tell your story?
How many hangovers can you endure
Just to get some snuggling done?
You're living in a hollow dream
You don't have the slightest notion
What long-term love is all about
All your romantic liaisons
Don't deal with eternal questions like
Who left the cap off the freaking toothpaste?
Whose turn to take the garbage out?

Frail grasp on the big picture
You keep on rubbin' that, you're gonna get a blister
It's a frail grasp on the big picture
I've seen it all before

And we pray to our Lord
Who we know is American
He reigns from on high
He speaks to us through middlemen
And he shepherds his flock
We sing out and we praise His name
He supports us in war
He presides over football games
And the right will prevail
All our troubles shall be resolved
We have faith in the Lord
Unless there's money or sex involved

Frail grasp on the big picture
Nobody's calling them for roughing up the pitcher
It's a frail grasp on the big picture
Heaven help us

Frail grasp on the big picture
All waiting for that miracle elixir
Frail grasp on the big picture
I don't wonder anymore

Frail grasp on the big picture
Somebody says, "You brought her here so go ahead and kiss her
Frail grasp on the big picture

Frail grasp on the big picture
Light fading and the fog is getting thicker
It's a frail grasp on the big picture

Frail grasp on the big picture
Frail grasp on the big picture

-Frail grasp on the big picture
The Eagles
Long Road Out of Eden

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