On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it 
>> cannot be divulged without payment.
> 
> Nothing.  You get a "mantra" which in ™ is the name
> of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and
> over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to
> it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because
> it's usually pretty boring doing this.  It's supposed to
> provide what TMers call "deep rest."  This is deeper than
> your average garden-variety rest, because they say so
> and what more proof do you need?  Seriously, there have
> been some studies but most have to shown to have been
> fixed in some way.  If you want a list of the ™ mantras,
> they're available somewhere on the Web.
> 
>> If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in this, 
>> why is it all a big secret? Why is the "technique" so secret?  Why isn't it 
>> in a book?
> 
> Because they could make more $$ in the old days
> by keeping it secret, silly.  Of course you can
> learn it from a book.  Only self-important pompous
> fools would try to convince you you needed to shell 
> out a huge amount of $$ to learn a "secret word."  
> Don't believe 'em, Denise. 
> 
>> Or is it?  Why has no one breached the secrecy?  Who the fuck are all of you 
>> super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant in 
>> the living room a secret?  Protecting your investment?  How self-centered is 
>> this?  Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for that matter, anyone 
>> who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that they can change the 
>> world?  It reeks of BS.
> 
> Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure
> you can find it on the Web.  Pick whichever mantra appeals to
> you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as 
> necessary, and voila.  You're a meditator. 

And here you go: http://bit.ly/lXMA3o

Sal 







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