--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kenny H" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > To my knowledge Dr. Herbert Benson never learned TM, he 
> > > steadfastly
> > > > > refused to learn claiming he would no longer be objective 
> about 
> > > it.
> > > > > Keith Wallace hounded him to start, I heard Maharishi hound 
> him
> > > > > relentlessly one night and he would not budge. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Though you may be biased towards TM what do you say about 
the 
> > fact
> > > > > that he has measured the same physiological changes with 
> > > meditators
> > > > > self-choosiing words such as "one", "rose", "love" etc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maharishi, in his Beacon Light of the Himalayas, said you 
can
> > > > > transcend on any sound. 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > But it may take much more time. I just noticed, once again 
that
> > > > if I pay attention to the phonetic detail of my mantra that
> > > > my TM instructor emphasized, I seem to transcend more quickly
> > > > and "effectively", despite that obviously being 
slightly "anti-
> > TM". 
> > > 
> > > But is transcending during TM the "goal" of TM?
> > 
> > Dunno, but this morning about 5.30 I once again started
> > laughing during TM, which usually happens only when I meditate
> > with other people in the same room. (Always reminds me of a 
> > herabouts saying that sez, amongst another thing, paraphrasing,
> > that a kid who laughs for nothing never becomes a man. But I
> > gather it's funny to be in one point, so to speak, because
> > I have no idea why I'm laughing. Anyhow, I wouldn't characterize
> > my laughing at that time by any means hysterical, or stuff.)
> > I think the last sound of my mantra is the one that causes
> > the /ekaagrataa-pariNaama/ of /citta/ (one-pointedness-
> > transformation). That's why it's  a bit puzzling for me, why some 
> TM 
> > biijas seem to have a vowel as their last sound, and not 
> > the "infamous" candra-bindu. Perhaps they are just somewhat 
> > misspelled on  Genaprarg (ROT-13) and elsewhere.
> 
> You're obsessing about proper pronounciation of the mantra, IMNSHO.

Or my TM instructor did that?
As I recall him saying in Finnish, after I tried to repeat the mantra 
after him:  "Siina (There, in it) on (is) geen -tapainen (a g-like 
[as in 'get']) aanne (sound) lopussa (in [at?] the end)".




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