hi mystical sender of white miraculous bird , ... [:x] pity nobody responded to these much more finer direct points done in comparison to "Monastery destroyed after translation slip by British intelligence officer http://tinyurl.com/3bdckck ": : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages/290391?threaded=1&m\ =e&var=1&tidx=1 http://tinyurl.com/7tkhrl7 and MZ having a most peculiar view of God "witnessing" the actual death of the supernatural context of creation. Is trying to get mystical experiences after the Allied Bombing of Mt Cassino, really ambiguous at best? The Nietzsche/Hopkins pose of a "stylesheet" defended by with arguments sought out after the event?
Just love old documentary especially reminder of long gone "Italian years" Some documentaries about "Padre Pio" first years...with rare footage Padre Pio: The Story Of The Saint <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kl6i400Q5c&feature=results_main&playnex\ t=1&list=PL25A3EA3BC40B61D8> * Padre Pio, the fist years - part 3 (the jubilee - ...1933) <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kl6i400Q5c&feature=results_video&playne\ xt=1&list=PL25A3EA3BC40B61D8> * Padre Pio, the fist years - part 2 (the stigmatas - 1919) <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XOkXkgmCPg&feature=results_video&playne\ xt=1&list=PL25A3EA3BC40B61D8> * Padre Pio, the fist years - part 1 (the beginning - 1910) <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuRi4fMtrfc&feature=results_video&playne\ xt=1&list=PL25A3EA3BC40B61D8> http://tinyurl.com/3zpgn6w http://tinyurl.com/3k4g4nl http://tinyurl.com/3vf4lls History:The Bombing of Monte Cassino TIME:Monday, Feb. 28, 1944 http://tinyurl.com/yepd6x6 Visiting a Carthusian monastery (Italiano/subt. in Eng.) <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_mb7wu_a0&feature=results_main&playnex\ t=1&list=PLBB20D2C4FFCC99BC> * Visiting a Carthusian monastery - part 1 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_mb7wu_a0&feature=results_video&playne\ xt=1&list=PLBB20D2C4FFCC99BC> * Visiting a Carthusian monastery - part 2 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz6hOBjRRi4&feature=results_video&playne\ xt=1&list=PLBB20D2C4FFCC99BC> * Visiting a Carthusian monastery - part 3 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni6PsZwSx40&feature=results_video&playne\ xt=1&list=PLBB20D2C4FFCC99BC> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" <yifuxero@...> wrote: > > re: the Monastery of Monte Cassino and its bombing in 1944. Consider the notion that the Holy Spirit has quit operating in the world after the bombing. > ... > 1. First, it's noteworthy that the Monastery was rebuilt by 1964. > > 2. Second, if the Holy Spirit left, then there should be no further "genuine" Catholic Saints living in the world after the 40's. > But Padre Pio lived until 1968. If he was a "genuine" Saint, anywhere near the status of various other Saints, it seems to me the original premise would be undermined. > > 3. The display of supposed Supernatural phenomena is a requirement for Sainthood in the Catholic Church, and Padre Pio (according to witnesses) manifested numerous healings, bilocations, and a few levitations. > > 4. The fact of the decline of the Catholic Church in recent decades may attributed to certain failings among celebate Priests that have come to light (but it's an easy assumption that those failings were present in previous centuries). > > 5. The 60's witnesses an expansion of Consciousness in the West, influenced by LSD and the Presence of some very powerful Gurus coming from India. The M-field of such "Eastern" teachings may be seen by some to have irreconcialable conflicts with entrenched Christianity, particularly Catholocism. One might compare the conflict to a "Clash of Civilizations", but pertaining to religious/Spiritual matters....not political and economic. > > It remains to be seen how this clash will work itself out. The clash involves some key concepts in either camp which are mutually exclusive; one such concept: the identity of "GOD", or if there is a God. One version of "the truth" must rule, since both can't be true. > > My prediction: the idea that The Trinity = God will fall by the wayside, as more people embrace concepts such as Dharma, Karma, Reincarnation; and abandon the idea of a God since there's (a) no need for such a concept and (b) even if it were true, where in the Hell is She/He? > ... > Wiki on some miracles of Padre Pio: > In the 1999 book, Padre Pio: The Wonder Worker, a segment by Irish priest Malachy Gerard Carroll describes the story of Gemma de Giorgi, a Sicilian girl whose alleged blindness some believe was corrected during a visit to the Capuchin priest.[33] Gemma, who was brought to San Giovanni Rotondo in 1947 by her grandmother, was born without pupils.[33] During her trip to see Padre Pio, the little girl reportedly began to see objects including a steamboat and the sea.[33] Gemma's grandmother did not believe the child had been healed.[33] After Gemma forgot to ask Padre Pio for Grace during her Confession, her grandmother reportedly implored the priest to ask God to restore her sight.[33] Padre Pio, according to Carroll, told her, "The child must not weep and neither must you for the child sees and you know she sees."[33] The section goes on to say that oculists were unable to determine how she gained vision.[33] Padre Pio is alleged to have waged physical combat with Satan and his minions, similar to incidents described concerning St. John Vianney, from which he is said to have sustained extensive bruising. He is also said to have possessed the ability to communicate with guardian angels, often granting favors and healings prior to any written or verbal request. > > On the day of his death, mystic and Servant of God Maria Esperanza de Bianchini from Caracas, Venezuela reported that Padre Pio appeared to her in a vision and stated "I have come to say good-bye. My time has come. It is your turn."[34][35][36] It is reported that her husband then watched as his wife's face transfigured into that of Padre Pio.[34][35][36] On the following day, they heard of the death of Padre Pio.[34][35][36] Witnesses claim to have seen Ms. Esperanza herself levitating during Mass and engaging in bilocation[36] Padre Domenico da Cese a fellow Capuchin stigmatist reported that on Sunday, September 22, 1968 he saw Padre Pio kneeling in prayer before the Holy Face of Manoppello in Manoppello, although it was known that Padre Pio hadn't left his room.[37] >
