Wayback71, you've got it with your last paragraph here. That is exactly where they got themselves with their anti-saint policy and the dome meditation numbers. Caught between a rock and a hard place in the fat man squeeze. & there is a fright that changing the old guidelines is the terrible precedent they don't want to open. Some of them are stuck fast holding on to the way it was. In consequence is how they are perceived and their dome meditation numbers together. Some of them are stuck in a way of getting out, for everyone.
Here we are in time, and times change. -Buck > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > In effect the linking of that anti-saint policy towards getting a dome > > badge as a punishment is completely antagonizing out in the larger > > meditating community. It goes back for years. Everyone knows or has heard > > of someone else whose badge is lifted for visiting saints while hundreds of > > others are still in the dome for the same thing anyway. The policy is > > without conscience as they use it. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@...> wrote: > > I am only guessing, but I suspect that those who are in the Domes and have > visited saints have not told the TMO - hence their continued entry to the > Domes. Those who get badges revoked have either told the truth to the powers > that be in the TMO, been spotted seeing saints, or been ratted on by someone. > > This is the same policy that has been in effect for decades and it was > started and continued by Maharishi - not rajas, not Bevan, not John H. To > change the policy would mean that some people very high up decide to "modify" > Maharishi's direct orders. And as you know, Maharishi was very very clear > about this right from the beginning. > > Now, there could be a few ways to change all this - maybe They (Bevan, Rajas > etc) could admit to themselves that they need more in the Dome, that > Maharishi might not have meant for this punishment to last for the remaining > lifetime of people initiated into TM, that many many TM teachers have in fact > seen other saints, and that there could be a way to forgive this "sin." It > could be a certain period of time since you last saw a saint combined with a > statement about when if ever you ever practiced something other than pure TM. > It could involve paying the TMO a donation. Somehow They have to get to a > point where this is discussed. > > What is strange is that when a person is instructed in TM, no one ever ever > says that from now on you cannot see a saint, get darshan from a saint, try > something else. That rule gets thrown in later, and makes those who need to > see a living saint in person feel guilty. At the least, surely once a master > has passed on, his disciples should be given leeway to be in the presence of > Enlightened people, even of another tradition. And they shuld be trusted to > kow waht is best for themselves. > > I fully understand the the domes should be for doing TM and siddhis only. I > personally cannot believe that Maharishi meant for this exclusion to last a > lifetime. Hopefully, so do the higher ups. Maybe they are afraid to make > thi change, because it could lead to others? > > > > > > > > > The challenge now for sustaining the dome numbers is that the > > > conservative movement still uses their anti-saint policy as a loyalty > > > test and to punish people by with-holding valid Dome badges to the group > > > meditation. They are still actively linking the anti-saint policy as > > > discipline towards getting a current dome badge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, there is a push on right now with the recent 'draw-down' of > > > > pundits going back to India. The draw-down recently left a hole in the > > > > aggregate numbers meditating here as those numbers are calculated. > > > > > > > > The pundits came in brigades of one or two hundred staggered over time. > > > > Their visas are good for a limited time period. Some groups of > > > > pundits have recently completed their deployment here, have returned to > > > > India and they have not been replaced by others. Hence the push to > > > > have the locals fill the breech in now. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Judy. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, good observation. There has already long been a > > > > > > > > > > separation. 'To be or not to be' is the linkage between > > > > > > > > > > going to be with saints and valid dome badges. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The numbers all show that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Didn't they recently have 2000 in the Domes ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super Monday 7th morning: 1076 compared with 760 the > > > > > > > > previous Monday morning. > > > > > > > > That's 316 extra! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super Monday 7th evening: 1323 compared with 936 the > > > > > > > > previous Monday afternoon. That's 387 extra! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is it that is causing the increase in Dome numbers? > > > > > > > Have they relaxed their badge policiy, are more Ffld people > > > > > > > simply making the effort , lots of visitors in town, what? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nabby and Susan, see: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/295032 > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems like there's a drive to get lots of people in the > > > > > > Domes on Mondays. > > > > > > > > > > > > And it was over 2,000 in the afternoon of Monday the 7th > > > > > > *with* pundits and "special groups," whatever those are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
