Also, in regard to miracles being an expression of Unity:
Both Moses and Thomas were in the presence of their peers, and in 
both instances it seems, both audiences were pre-disposed to 
receiving the experience of Unity, from someone they regarded as an 
equal.
In Jesus' case, he was a Jew, and in those days, a Roman citizen 
would be regarded as "higher caste", than a Jew;
Pariculary, one who was related to the Roman heirarchy, and the 
notion of Caesar being a 'God'.
Therefore, Jesus, was just regarded as 'just another Jew', and there 
was no room for miracles there, in that bloody place.

Like Mr. Springstien, so eloquently sang;

"Ain't no Angels, gonna greet me, 
Just you and I, my friend.
And the pain don't hurt me no more,
On the streets of Philadelphia..."



> > I agree, God does perform the miracle, as he does everything 
else.
> > It's just that, what is considered a miracle, is usually just an 
> > event in which Spirit, takes precedence over matter.
> > Or the 'Timeless' takes precedence over time.
> > It's just something that occurs spontaneously when God has a 
reason 
> > to express himself in that way, not only through the Master, but 
> > through the student as well, as it creates an experience of 
Unity.  
> > A miracle is a two-way street;
> > A miracle is a participatory event; 
> > It's not a sideshow.
> 
> Sure, but Moses performed miracles in responseto challenges by 
> Pharoh's court magicians. I don't think that its IMPOSSIBLE to 
> perform miracles before doubters. Certainly Thomas was presented 
with 
> one...
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > The request for miracles from a doubter or mocker is 
> experienced 
> > in 
> > > > Unity Conciousness as a request from the small self to have 
> > dominion 
> > > > over the Self. Since this is an impossibility in UC, the 
> request 
> > will 
> > > > always be denied.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----The so-called 'master' is the source of the problem of 
> > needing 
> > > miracles, to wit, if he hadn't claimed to be a master then 
nobody 
> > would 
> > > request miracles.
> > > 
> > > In the Christian tradition, 'tis God who performs the miracle.
> > > 
> > > As for siddhis, one need notbe a master to perform one, or at 
> > least, 
> > > one need not be a permanent master to perform one.




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