--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
> [...]
> > > > We freemasons consider it to be the worst kind of humiliation to 
> be
> > > > rejected as a morally and ethically untrustworthy person.
> > > > 
> > > > Irmeli
> > > 
> > > And you're certain that MMY fits this description?
> > 
> > ***
> > Why not?
> > 
> 
> You're making the accusation. You tell me.

****
It is a fact that MMY is publicly seen this way. I have difficulties
even mentioning my friends that I'm involved in a chat group where TMO
also presents itself and its agendas, so bad is its reputation.

And that is also how I see it, even if I can see also a bigger
picture, where MMY fulfils an important function, as I wrote in my
comment earlier.

How do you think he has earned that kind of reputation? Reputation has
to be earned, hasn't it? 
Dalai Lama has managed to create a good reputation. Have you any idea
why? 
Or is this all some rude injustice from nature's side. Or maybe people
are SO STUPID and you could also blame kali yuga.

Anyway this is how things are.

Irmeli







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