On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:11 PM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > The common understanding of the 1000s of initiators made in the 60s > and 70s was that MMY was given the knowledge of TM from Guru Dev and > that the knowledge regarding mantras, selection of mantras, and > instruction in TM had been preserved orally by the Holy Tradition and > that is why we always do puja as part of instruction in TM. W/o going > into specifics, initiators know that prior to puja we tell the student > that the meditation they're about to learn comes from the gentleman > whose photo in on the puja table, and that photo isn't MMY's.
Thank you, yes! > > It was only as time passed that people began to realize that guru dev > probably didn't do TM or teach it to MMY and that MMY probably made it > up himself (lots of theories on how and when) and then the concept > promoted in this thread that actually it's just the "realization" that > had been passed on by GD to MMY. > > I don't care that much about lineages as I don't really understand > them esoterically, but I agree that it's very odd that MMY has been so > vague as to where the specific practice TM came from. Why?? That's the question. It's helpful to consider the benefits of knowing *where* TM came from. There are only a certain number of places that contain these mantras. All are tantras, including some of the non-dual anuttara class (e.g. Sri Vidya). If you knew which tantra it came from, you could seek transmission of that volume of practice and full line of transmission. That's an incredible opportunity. This is also why some of us, on finding out that Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was an adept of Sri Vidya, went and sought initiation. Also interesting is that the tantras are caste blind in general--some do contain certain elements to scare away Brahmins and other "high caste" people, but if these people can drop their limitations, they too can also approach tantra. The point being that irregardless of Mahesh's caste, he could receive initiation into a tantra. He obviously did not and could not become a swami. So knowing these things could be extremely beneficial to TM'ers. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
