Well, it certainly is entertaining for me to watch the two of you discussing me at such great length. Hopefully you're close to exhausting the Judy topic and will be moving on to other more significant issues.
I do want to make a couple of comments: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@...> wrote: > > PART IV: Robin to Curtis > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: <snip> > Our only interaction is in the environment arguing about > something she cherishes and I mock. Not true AT ALL. Curtis and I have interacted with regard to a wide range of topics, from politics to philosophy to pig's blood to pedophilia and other subjects all over the map. In many cases they've been arguments, but in quite a few they've been friendly discussions. How has Curtis managed to send everything he and I have talked about except for "something she cherishes and I mock" down the memory hole? Is it a tactic to isolate me as a TM-TB whose only disagreements with Curtis are about TM-related issues and thus induce all the TM critics--at least, those who are reading this exchange between Robin and himself--to take his side? <snip> > I may be wrong in this; but it is my impression that Judy > respects you, even feelswhen she canan affection for you. > You see how disconnected I am from the Curtis reality, You're closer to my reality than you are to Curtis's, Robin. My feelings about Curtis are distinctly mixed. I've told him on several occasions that something he's said (or failed to say) has disappointed me--IOW, that he didn't meet my expectations of him. Now, Curtis isn't responsible for my expectations or the disappointments thereof, but the point is that I wouldn't have high expectations of him if I didn't hold him in some considerable esteem. There are many things I respect and admire about Curtis, and some that I don't. I tweak him about his "Mr. Wonderful" act, but it's not all an act by any means. It's the Mr.-Not-So-Terrific aspects of Curtis that I find frustrating; they stick out like the proverbial sore thumbs. Affection per se, I dunno, but there are many times when I wish him well. There's no question that he tends to see anything I say to or about him that's even remotely critical as "uncharitable." It's a lot easier to avoid hearing criticism if one can define it as coming from a person who takes an uncharitable view of oneself. One more point I want to make here, although it isn't referenced so much in this post as the previous ones. Robin mentioned the issue of Curtis's refusal to speak up about Barry's bad behavior, and Curtis succeeded in turning that into an issue about Barry's and my quarrels and Curtis's reasons for not interfering in them. In fact, though, in the week before Curtis overposted, one of the two main issues he was dealing with that *led* him to overpost was that he was being criticized by quite a few folks here for his tolerance of Barry's viciousness toward the many people on the forum Barry doesn't like. It isn't just about me and Barry, it's about Barry and all the folks he insults and demeans on a regular basis, and Curtis's unwillingness to say anything about the unpleasantness Barry is constantly injecting into the discourse here. Curtis very neatly avoided that issue by shrinking its scope and significance to the Barry-Judy feud. Oh, there's one last point. In an earlier post to Robin, Curtis wrote: > Wow, you and Judy really need to get a room. I have had years > of this bullshit from her Robin. Don't think you are gunna > get a rise out of me because I have a friendly relationship > with Barry that includes us not butting into each other's > business with other people. In fact, Barry regularly butts into Curtis's business with other people. That was the *other* reason Curtis overposted a few weeks ago; he was dealing with the fallout from Barry's revelation of something Curtis had said to Barry about Robin in private email. The good feeling between Curtis and Robin had begun to fray not too long before that. Barry saw the crack opening between them and decided to drive a wedge into it. Barry has butted into Curtis's business with me countless times. He's butted into Curtis's business with those Barry calls the Terminally Self Important--including me, Ravi, Robin, and Jim--comparing us to lepers showing off their sores to Curtis, characterizing him as the Mother Teresa of the Internet. Barry feels *absolutely no inhibitions whatsoever* about butting into Curtis's business with other people and does it routinely. That Curtis has somehow managed to block all this from his awareness is astonishing to me. OK, Judy over and out. Just had to put a few words in. I hope you guys can get it worked out and get back to the *vastly* more interesting dialogue you were having earlier.
