--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > On Aug 16, 2005, at 1:32 PM, wmurphy77 wrote:
> > 
> > > Located in 'kamaloka' (desire world) in the lowest devision of 
> the
> > > astral. Here, "the atmosphere of this place is gloomy, heavy, 
> dreary,
> > > depressing to an inconceivable extent. It seems to reek with 
all 
> the
> > > influences most inimical to good, as in truth it does, being 
> caused by
> > > the persons whose evil passions have led them to this dreary 
> place.
> > >
> > > All the desires and feelings at which we shudder find here the
> > > materials for their expression; it is,in fact, the 
> lowest 'slum', with
> > > all the horrors veiled from physical sight parading in their 
> naked
> > > hideousness. Its repulsiveness is much increased by the fact 
> that in
> > > the astral world character expresses itself in *form*, and the 
> man who
> > > is full of evil passions *looks the whole of them*; bestial 
> appetites
> > > shape the astral body into *bestial* froms, and repulsively 
human
> > > animal shapes are the appropriate clothing of brutalized human
> > > souls...." Annie Besant, The Ancient Wisdom.
> > >
> > 
> > This is not a hell dimension. Pretaloka is the dimension that 
drug 
> > addicts, alchoholics, gluttons, etc. can end up in.
> 
> How is that different from a hell dimension? It sounds pretty 
> hellish to me...

Don't know about the Hindu/Tibetan hells, but the Christian hell is 
often considered impossible to escape from, or at least exceedingly 
difficult.





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