--- In [email protected], obbajeeba <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > > > LOL.. > > > > Krishna's darling Gopi, Obba to the rescue. > > > > Had to bring pani, quench the wounds of the western ambush > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQMyGKj0Z4Y > > > Everyone here supposedly uses false handles except perhaps for a few folks > > such as Rick, Bob and I. > > > Usernames are a good thing, and I really am Obbajeeba. > > > Yet these people go on and on with their inane discussions. OK yes I admit > > to having insulted the handles - curtisfeltablues and turquoiseb, > > shukra69..LOL.. > > > > The best of entertainment! > > > Oh no curtisfeltablues wants to enter the high tech industry since the > > spare change he makes from his trailer trash, hillbilly music is not enough > > and Ravi Chivukula spread malicious lies on the handle > > curtisfeltablues..LOL.. > > > If one has a slave job that the employers seek the wild west internet forums, > then one should not use the Internet forums. This is the wild west and some > people want to tame it to their slave conditionings? > > > > They are so attached to even the fake id's they create but it's all > > opinion, POV's as they say, no truth as curtisfeltablues and turquoiseb > > constantly remind us. Aah but why does it hurt so much. I think I really > > hit at curtisfeltablues's weaknesses, there's gotta be something more to > > this that he doesn't want to admit. Clearly there's more and he wants this > > discussion to end..:-) > > > The mud slingin ain't comin from one direction, Paw. What I mean is ain't no > truth comin from one side neither, right Paw? > Yep, its in the brain, what ticks one off. > > > > What pathetic, false lives they live, false beliefs they insulate > > themselves. > > > Well, ya know what? I think they be a lil rough around the edges from life > taken a beaten on them, or bein conditioned to blame. > > > Hypocrisy and ridiculousness rules supreme here. > > > > > Yep, uh huh. Sure is thick around here and easy to spot. No wonder thems, > theys thinks we are on teams. Them being the adversary to truth. Theys not > wrong, jus don't see without the fog lifting once in while. You have cut the > fog and it was clear before theys figur'd out what they woas lookin at. Kind > of shockin to youngin souls, Ravi. > > The funniest thang would be all of us of FFL sittin at a round table, staring > at each other face to face and I know you would lovingly embrace each and > everyone of em, right Paw? > You have heart. (;;;\/;;;) > \;;;;;;/ > \;;;;/ > \;;/ > \/ > Dang Paw! You'd think that was suppos'd to be a heart, above, but thems actually groups of divided CanCan dancers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZs__8EnVE Sorry to confuse.
> > On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:50 PM, obbajeeba <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Nice sunset, Ravi. > > > But,I think you posted a lie. The lie is the sun has set and it not the > > > same view as before since you posted this photo. So that is not telling > > > the truth, because now is all that exists and you called that a sunset. > > > No lying allowed on FFL. Nope. Everyone needs to just tell the truth. > > > Name, birth date, social security numbers (those are supposed to be > > > confidential, but credit card companies can use them now.) Driver's > > > license numbers and insurance agent. Please give a detailed education > > > background,including preschools attended. > > > Mobil phone numbers are a must! Please show any and all medical records > > > and all court orders on your profile, it is necessary as the wayback > > > machine counsels you to do so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F13urnxh3w4. > > > The sun has not set, Ravi. Ravi shines from all locations from the center > > > of our solar system. The rest of us only get to view his greatness as we > > > spin around all crazy and such, thousands of miles per hour, no wonder > > > our heads are spinning, thinking Ravi lies. : ) > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunset, Venice Beach Jan 8, 2011 > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/73243621@N07/6663473701 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I even saw a couple of girls in bikinis, hello welcome to Southern > > > > > California :-). I can for at least look past Ravi's unhealed personal > > > > > wounds and share in the joy of families and couples around. > > > > > > > > > > I thought I would post out by Monday so I can focus on work. I > > > > > clearly have failed :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> OK cool. I have moved on, to the beach, to watch the beautiful > > > > >> Sunset. Living a block away from a crowded beach is such a pleasure. > > > > >> > > > > >> Love, > > > > >> Ravi > > > > >> > > > > >> On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:36 PM, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula > > > > >>> <chivukula.ravi@> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Susan, > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > I'm sorry why would Judy need to be accountable for anything. She > > > > >>> > knew exactly why I was intentionally lying. I acknowledged I was > > > > >>> > lying as well. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Ok, but it would be simpler and certainly would be kinder not to > > > > >>> lie to start with, even if you are replying to lies of others. As > > > > >>> we all know, lying by one person does not justify lying by another. > > > > >>> It simply perpetuates the mess. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > It's just hypocritical for you to create categories and grades of > > > > >>> > lies. Barry, Vaj and Curtis lie regularly though Curtis much more > > > > >>> > subtle, complex. And they don't even admit to their lying and > > > > >>> > deception, they have so much emotional investment. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I guess we all have emotional investment. I can think of little in > > > > >>> my life that is objective. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Just because I stretch the limits and go overboard in my lying > > > > >>> > that you are forced to even acknowledge, confront it. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You would be acknowledged without lying and also without being so > > > > >>> wild. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Curtis starts acting like a wimp, a victim. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > This is just ridiculous and hypocritical. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > On Jan 8, 2012, at 3:59 PM, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray1" > > > > >>> > > <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > My perspective on Judy has certainly changed over time. From > > > > >>> > > > one of > > > > >>> > > > mostly a critic to someone who often respects and is in > > > > >>> > > > agreement with > > > > >>> > > > her opinions and observations. > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > But here is something I have found instructive. Judy was > > > > >>> > > > asked, twice, > > > > >>> > > > if she felt Ravi had gone overboard in his slandering of > > > > >>> > > > Curtis. (New > > > > >>> > > > Years Eve incident) (Please allow me proceed with this term, > > > > >>> > > > since > > > > >>> > > > there has been no evidence to suggest that Curtis engaged in > > > > >>> > > > the > > > > >>> > > > behavior for which he accused) > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > She was asked this question by someone who I consider an > > > > >>> > > > honest broker > > > > >>> > > > -wayback71. Judy evidently objected to the way the question > > > > >>> > > > was phrased > > > > >>> > > > and would not answer it. Later on she finally provided some > > > > >>> > > > answer. > > > > >>> > > > By that time I did not pay much attention to it, but one > > > > >>> > > > thing she said > > > > >>> > > > was, and I believe I have the quote correct, or correct > > > > >>> > > > enough, "Susan > > > > >>> > > > knows I don't endorse lying..." > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > Well, if a person doesn't endorse lying, then at one point do > > > > >>> > > > you stand > > > > >>> > > > up and oppose it? > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > Exactly. We all know Judy would normally stand up right away - > > > > >>> > > within seconds - if someone, anyone, even a friend, was lying. > > > > >>> > > She missed this one. > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > Then today, in an exchange with Curtis, we find that this > > > > >>> > > > oppostion to > > > > >>> > > > "lying" is conditional as to whether a person "deserves" to > > > > >>> > > > be defended > > > > >>> > > > from lying. Evidently she feels, or felt that Curtis was not > > > > >>> > > > entitled > > > > >>> > > > to this defending. Or that the slander was not sufficient > > > > >>> > > > enough to > > > > >>> > > > warrant addressing it. Well if that is the case, then don't > > > > >>> > > > make a > > > > >>> > > > blanket statment that "so and so knows I oppose lying" > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > What do you think? > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > Of course I agree with you! As you said, I did ask her twice, > > > > >>> > > humbling myself the second time so as give her an chance to > > > > >>> > > answer. Judy could have used that question to begin to distance > > > > >>> > > herself from Ravi's lie, from anyone's lying in a hurtful and > > > > >>> > > malicious way here. But she dug in. > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > I too find many of Judy's posts interesting and filled with > > > > >>> > > intelligence and honesty. That is why I was so surprised that > > > > >>> > > she would not call Ravi on intentionally lying about Curtis. > > > > >>> > > Judy was right - I do know that she opposes lying, but IMO she > > > > >>> > > went astray on this one and should have piped up. > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > I suspect that at this point, regardless of all the other > > > > >>> > > complex discussion, Judy made a few bad choices on this one. > > > > >>> > > She can be Ravi's friend, ignore or call him on lies, and move > > > > >>> > > on. Basically I think we all share the same feeling that gross > > > > >>> > > and malicious lying about significant issues - the kind of > > > > >>> > > stuff that can hurt your reputation out in real life - is not > > > > >>> > > welcome here, not about anyone. > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
