Yes, we can always speculate in such a way that it fulfills our desires too. I personally do not share my experiences because I want to convince others of their validity.
I mention it for those few souls who are dedicated to their liberation, and to know such things are possible. There might be a person or two out there who wishes for a personal relationship with a saint or god or goddess, and such a thing is possible. It is possible to meet souls in the astral world who love unconditionally and completely, forgive us for everything they see in us, and establish a dynamic and real, long lasting relationship that grows and changes much as an earthly one does. I can appreciate your desire to know such phenomena as a bridge between science and spirituality, and wish you complete success in your inquiry. PS The reason Maharishi's experience rings true for me, is the nature of the relationship he has with Mother Divine. A conversation and a relationship, vs. the robertson guy who claims a 900 foot Jesus and something out of science fiction. Once you are having these experiences at will, it is easy to spot the fakers from those describing a real experience. I look forward to continuing this discussion in a week if you like, or with anyone else who enjoys the subject of direct celestial communication. This is 51 for me. --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > I believe in the phenomenon just not the interpretation of what it means. It > is well known capacity of our brains. In some conditions our ability to > distinguish inner and outer mental experience gets confused. That is my take > on the sincere ones. I have no reason to believe that Roberts was less > sincere in having a dramatic experience than Maharishi. It is just funny how > convenient they both came out to be for their own desires. > > I am not really sure that Maharishi is not just reporting a dramatic > conversation he had with himself in the context of a temple using Mother > Divine as an artistic literary device. That would be my best guess. He was > reporting his thoughts in a more dramatic way taking some poetic license to > punch the story up a bit. He did a similar thing I believe when he claimed > that Vasishtha came onto him last night! It lead to a perspective about the > Vedas. I have my doubts that he saw himself in as mystical a light as he > projected to us. Judith's book makes me believe he was more of a poetic > devise guy than a "I just talked to Mother Divine for real real" guy. YMMV > > But my guess is that there are way more people who actually experience > something dramatic than people who are outright lying through their teeth. > I've had ones like it so I understand how compelling they are. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "futur.musik" <futur.musik@> wrote: > > > > Since most people don't have this experience there are folks who fake this > > to take advantage of others. Too bad - leads to rampant cynicism. However > > there are indications wrt the experience that can speak to its validity, or > > not. Maharishi's account reads as genuine. Can you guess why? No, *not* > > because it is Maharishi... > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > Where have I heard this type of claim before...oh yeah: > > > > > > n 1977, Roberts claimed to have had a vision from a 900-foot-tall Jesus > > > who told him to build City of Faith Medical and Research Center, and the > > > hospital would be a success. > > > > > > So convenient how God supports a person's organizational ambitions like > > > that! > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here is a transcript of a tape recording of Maharishi speaking about a > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > with Mother Divine on dealing withe negativity in the world & in each > > > > Heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi Speaks with > > > > > > > > Mother Divine > > > > > > > > No. 59, 'Living the Good Life' > > > > > > > > http://www.maharishiphotos.com/divine.html > > > > > > > > > >
