It is not usually a matter of if I "dare" say, it is more a case of whether I am able to say. I have limited knowledge of Robin today. I have not spoken to or seen him for 25 years. I only remember his conversion to Catholicism back in 1985 or so and the transition for the "group" from an emphasis on teachings based on Vedic philosophy to Christianity. Having been raised Catholic this was old news for me and not someplace I really wanted to revisit. I was also branded an "evil being" at this point and sent packing. I watched from afar via videotapes the somewhat forced transformation my friends were struggling to embrace. This was a pretty big leap for lots of them, including our Jewish contingent. But you must know more about his current adherence to Catholicism than I do through his FFL posts.
I have no real judgement of Robin's enlightenment. I was attracted to him because he was bucking the TM movement. I am not sure why that appealed to me. I had been meditating since an early age and had graduated from MIU and had no real issues with the movement or Maharishi or anything else. My sister was a student and TM teacher there, my other sister was on the faculty and my brother in law was Dean of Faculty and taught in the art department. Both my parents meditated as well. So we were pretty immersed in TM as a family. I guess I admired Robin's individuality, his willingness to step outside, way outside, the status quo. His claims to enlightenment were secondary to the fact that the prospect of jumping on this horse (WTS) promised a few bronco busting moments. It proved to be quite a ride. --- In [email protected], "emptybill" <emptybill@...> wrote: > > So, looking back, what is your judgement of RWC's previous claims > to "enlightenment" and his current conversion to Catholicism? > > Dare you say? > > > > --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Buck, Yes, I was initiated in 1970 by my sister who attended TT in > Majorca in 1969. I was 14 at the time. I remember paying one week's > allowance for this. I transferred from Colgate University in 1975 to MIU > after attending an SCI course at Livingston Manor. It blew me away and I > just had to come to FF! I attended MIU from the Fall of 1975 until > graduation in 1980. I left FF for a while living in upstate NY with my > then boyfriend and fellow MIU graduate. After a couple of years I > returned to FF (don't we all at some time?) and taught a horseback > riding program with another friend of mine for the students and > meditators in town. Around that time I also had a friend that had > attended the first Robin Carlsen lecture in town. Their description of > it intrigued me. I proceeded to watch a seminar tape, was blown away by > that and jumped head first into the most amazing three and a half years > of my life. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: > > > > > > Awoelf, You are a meditator(?) You do meditate don't you? > > > Just wondering, where you are coming from. > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a newbie here at FFL. Glancing through all of the posts > > > > > > they range from the mundane (movie reviews) to scratch-out- > > > > > > your-eyes cat fights. Something's got some of you going but > > > > > > I'm not sure anyone is convincing anyone else that they are > > > > > > right. Good luck to you all. > > > > > > > > > > Welcome. I took your reference to movie reviews as > > > > > "mundane" as a bit of a challenge, and I hope you > > > > > like the result. :-) > > > > > > > > > > As for trying to convince others that we're right, > > > > > well that is something not everyone here indulges > > > > > in. Some just "know" that they're right. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Awoelf, > > > > > > > > You come in to the middle of something here. > > > > Lot of us been trying to save this guy from his ways for years now > and he thinks he knows better. Still, I pray for him and those others > that fell away from the cart here too. Is always a sad thing to witness > these fallen away wriggle the way they do. > > > > > > > > Kindly, > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > >
