Does unity exist as posited by someone else? Others do say this, Krishnamurti 
for example, although he did not call it this. He would point to a flower and 
say 'you are that flower'. If in fact something like unity exists as an 
experience, it seems it is generally ceded that it is beyond description. 
Therefore the description that *is* given, is like a metaphor, an image of what 
it might resemble, not what it *is* like. Many people seem to be having 
experiences like this now, not necessarily stable. I have the suspicion that 
those that do, tend not to stay in the movement, or drift to other movements 
where dealing with the ramifications of that experience is more clearly 
appreciated. If you graduate from your courses successfully, do you hang around 
your old teachers indefinitely?

If the spiritual trip really works, you reclaim your whole life, so why keep 
acting as if you are still trying to find it? It's impossible.

--- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote:
> >
> > Willy, UC is too deep an experience to be a 'deception' as 
> > Robin later claims.
> 
> And you know that exactly *how*? Oh, I remember
> now. The definition of UC is as it was proposed 
> by MMY, who probably got closer than a country 
> mile to it during his entire life.
> 
> > I don't think Robin was ever in UC.
> 
> I go further. I don't think UC exists, as posited 
> by MMY.
>


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