Thanks Ann, personal stuff. The family toll is tough in groups like this and in some ways even more so with a meditating family I'll bet. My dad liked my TM initiator and my mom thought he was a little swarmy! Mother's intuition. Your sisters must have had it tough, this was such a big deal for guys like me who were so Maharishi-ed up. Robin was opposing the MASTER! "Nature speaking English" Larry Domash. Even thinking about him scared us, he was a boogie man and I don't mean John Lee Hooker! The sister who let you do your own thing deserves some kind of cool metal.
If I lived up North I would make friends with someone who liked to shoot moose and elk and that is what I would have on my plates. --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@...> wrote: > > My father thought Robin was extraordinary. He had a private meeting with him > in a hotel room. My father was a very powerful CEO, longtime meditator and no > fool (or maybe he was). He saw something strange and powerful there. > My mother hated the man, even wrote him a letter claiming she "rued the day > her daughter had met him." > One of my sisters virtually disowned me and the other one let me have my > space. > By the way, your image of the "forks clinking on vegetarian plates..." not > true but hilarious! > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@> > wrote: > > > > Hey Susan if its any consolation, that thought also crossed my mind that > > someone had been sent into battle since she focused on Vaj and seemed to be > > going down the "Vaj never met Robin" road pretty early. > > > > Nothing like the facts to disrupt fantasy! Anyway, you were not alone. > > > > Now that that is settled I hope Ann sticks around and tells some stories. > > I am curious how her TMy family members reacted to the blasphemy of going > > off with Robin. That was such a terrifying no no, it took some unusual > > self confidence. > > > > So how did that go down Ann, I imagine forks clinking on vegetarian filled > > plates with your sisters and you piping up: "hey could you pass me the > > tempeh and tofu curry and BTW I'm with the Anti-Christ now. Soooo how did > > your day go?" > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Susan, > > > > > > > > This has been a bit of a culture shock for me at FFL. But I feel you > > > > have given me an opening here to clarify something without being shot > > > > out of the water. And it relates to the conjecturing as to how I happen > > > > to have appeared at FFL at the exact time that I did. > > > > > > > > I will tell you something strange. I went to the funeral of a former > > > > member of Robin's group about two weeks ago. I do not associate with > > > > the former members even though many of them live within an hour of me. > > > > There are perhaps 20 of them. By some fluke, two days earlier the > > > > husband of the deceased ex-member called out to me in the grocery store > > > > to say that his wife had died and invited me to the service. Now, I > > > > never see these people and here he was at this moment with this news. I > > > > felt like I should go to the funeral. It was filled with many of my old > > > > Robin acquaintances, really the core group from years before the > > > > Americans got involved. It was really strange for me but also strangely > > > > nice to see them, to see that they were thriving and happy in their > > > > marriages, with their abundant kids (virtually every one of them are > > > > devout Catholics). > > > > > > > > Now one of those former members emailed me a few days later listing a > > > > whole whack of links to posts that Robin had made on this site. No one > > > > had seen or heard from him for 25 years so this was big news. I > > > > clicked on some of these links and FFL was revealed. And I started to > > > > read, and read and read and discovered that it was indeed Robin (no one > > > > who was familiar with his writing could mistake the style, the lack of > > > > brevity (!), the brilliance.) > > > > > > > > So there I was scrolling down pages and pages of posts and there was > > > > one where he was conversing with Vaj. There was this perfect space > > > > created, this fleeting opportunity to insert my comment because he > > > > mentioned something about if anyone who had really been there with him > > > > all those years ago and spoke out he would know for certain if they had > > > > experienced the real deal with him in the context of a seminar. > > > > > > > > And then I just sort of jumped in. It seemed like all these events had > > > > colluded to result in this spontaneous post, it was like it was my cue. > > > > There was no planning, I am not Robin in disguise (d-uh) and I really > > > > had no agenda. I still don't. I have no idea where this is all going. > > > > > > > > As of this morning I was definitely not going to stick around. Too much > > > > weird negativity toward me, too much work to make myself heard and the > > > > anonymity aspect gives the wrong kind of license to people who want to > > > > behave badly. > > > > > > > > If I do stick around here is what you can expect from me: honesty, > > > > willingness to clarify when possible, civility and respect for the same > > > > when it is shown to me. The beauty of the internet is I can just go > > > > away in a moment if I need to. > > > > > > > > Hopefully you made it to the end of this long post. But I'm still not > > > > Robin. > > > > > > I made it ti the end, and I believe you are not Robin! And thanks for > > > the clarification - I wondered how you got here when you did. You kind > > > of jumped in at a time when the level of anticipation and expectation > > > about what you might say was unrealistic and really had to do with Robin, > > > not you yourself. > > > > > > FFL is interesting and you might find it fun. It also can bring up > > > memories and provide some perspective on old mind sets and belief > > > systems. Here, I realize my own thoughts and issues are far from unique, > > > even though in daily life not many of my colleagues think about the stuff > > > I do. Things like the brain, the self, consciousness, what it all means, > > > what it might not mean. There is a nice mix here, most having marinated > > > in some spiritual juices for quite some time. Thanks for the reply. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I owe an apology to you, Ann. When you arrived here a few > > > > > days ago, I thought you had been asked by Robin to join FFL. The > > > > > reason for that assumption is that he had recently asked if anyone > > > > > who knew him back in the 70's and 80's would please post here about > > > > > what he was like then and what it was like to be involved in his > > > > > course. And you appeared! Robin wanted to defuse Vaj's comments about > > > > > those times. I thought you were responding to that call from Robin. > > > > > I also thought you would then clear up some of the issues between > > > > > Vaj's perception of the events surrounding Robin, and Robin's own > > > > > memories. > > > > > > > > > > Whether you are here to support Robin or not, I do not know. But your > > > > > comments are interesting. Welcome. I described your posts as > > > > > "evasive" because I wanted you to explain in more detail about your > > > > > time with Robin. That was an unfair characterization by me. So, now > > > > > that I am home from work and have a chance to read the posts of > > > > > today and settle down and spend more than 30 seconds at FFL, I > > > > > realize I made a mistake. You obviously have no obligation to answer > > > > > questions about your time with Robin. Just enjoy your time here at > > > > > FFL and, again, welcome. > > > > > > > > > > >
