--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > When listening to spiritual discourse in English, I have to
> > > diligently allow the intellect to only touch and release the
words
> > > flowing by, not allowing it to do the pitbull routine on
concepts. I
> > > have to treat it as if I were listening to pandits chanting in
> > > Sanskrit. Honestly, I couldn't give a recap of anything said
during
> > > the weekend satsang intensive with Krishna Gauci, but I know I
got a
> > > lot out of it because I would have physical shudders of
recognition.
> > 
> > It IS interesting to see this denoucing of intellect, given 
> > that "buddha," meaning "awakened 
> > one," is related to "buddhi," intellect...

It is also interesting that enlightened beings like Buddha are
referred to as self-realized, not self-intellectualized.
 
> Listening to words and pondering them intellectually
> has never changed anyone spiritually.  However, with
> some teachers the words can be "on top of" another
> transmitted teaching that cannot be expressed in 
> words, but is highly transformative.  In such situ-
> ations, to attempt to keep oneself at the surface
> level of intellect is highly unproductive, and can
> cause the student to miss the transmitted teaching.
> I got the impression that this is the situaion Alex
> was trying to convey.

Your impression is correct.

Alex




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