--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> shempmcgurk wrote:
> > 
> > As for being on the front line against the Nazis, my memory is 
that 
> > their boat was in the Pacific, not the Atlantic.
> 
> Right you are. Greenwald is generalizing from Queeg to 
> all career warriors everywhere.
>  
> > I do remember it being one of the best roles Humphrey Bogart 
played
> 
> I read that Ferrer was brilliant in his portrayal of Greenwald, 
too.
>  
> > > The Caine Mutiny is an interesting metaphor for the TMO 
> > > because, although we can argue that Maharishi is acting 
> > > from dementia now, he was the guy who tried to save us 
> > > from our own madness, and for some of us, succeeded.
> > 
> > Interesting metaphor.
> > 
> > Of course, the crew of the boat had access to Queeg. 99.9% of 
> > the "troops" in the TMO haven't had access to MMY in years OR 
the 
> > ability to interact with him to tell him how they feel about 
things.
> 
> Have you read the Aubrey-Maturin novels of Patrick 
> O'Brien?


No....is he the one that wrote the book "Master and Commander" made 
into the Russell Crowe movie?


> They deal with the isolation of the captain. No 
> one to talk to, to confide in. It was against the culture 
> of the service for the captain to solicit input from his 
> officers. The officers didn't offer their opinions, either, 
> nor even speak to the captain unless spoken to. I wonder 
> if those taboos continue to this day. Any naval veterans 
> here to speak to that?




I'm not one, but that more accurately describes Queeg's situation 
vis a vis "The Caine Mutiny".





> 
> In The Caine Mutiny, there sure as heck isn't any fraternization 
> between Queeg and his officers.
> 
> And from what Rick and others have reported, Maharishi 
> doesn't brook opposing opinions either. So access is only part of 
the problem. 
> 
>  - Patrick




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