--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/19/05 1:15:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I thought it was the Indian belief that the soul enters the body on the > first breathe (pran). > > > > > This is what I heard MMY say. Seems he changes his mind on the idea. I > believe Tibetans say at conception. I'm sure everybody has their own opinion. So > who is right? Does one err on the side of caution or on the side of > convenience? If a society agrees that it begins at birth and the reality is that it > begins at conception or somewhere in between, what is the karma for that society > to sanction a law that kills the most innocent lives by the millions? > Letting a few people make this decision for society can be dangerous. That's why I > believe our founding fathers said that we derive our unalienable rights, > among them Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness from our Creator, not from > men. The right to life was considered an absolute by our founding fathers.
Of course, the Hare Krishnas go beyond all of that: they believe that the karma of killing so many cows for consumption in America is very, very bad. Indeed, I remember about 25 years ago when some nutcase went into a MacDonald's and shot everyone in sight that the Krishna's released a press statement saying that that was direct karma for killing millions of cows. I heard that Sattynand (one of MMY's disciples) said that the reason America doesn't have any great leaders is that they eat them all. But there is something to be said about "erring on the side of caution" if one is to take karma into consideration when we discuss the issue of abortion: over 40 million fetuses have been aborted since Roe v. Wade. And that's 40 million potential incarnations of God (man is made in the image of God). And just to inject a political observation here: one of the reasons that liberals have given in the past two presidential elections for NOT voting for George Bush is that when it comes to picking Supreme Court judges that Bush will pick anti-Roe v. Wade judges and the "right" to abortion will be removed. Well, there's two things to say about that: 1) Roe v. Wade is from 1973. Since those 32 years have passed, we've had 20 years of Republican presidents, all of whom are anti- abortion. Let not one of those 40 million fetuses have been denied the pleasure of being sucked out of their mothers' wombs. 2) Even if Roe v. Wade is overturned, nothing prevents any state from passing their own abortion laws allowing abortion to be legal in their state. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
