--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > --- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > --- "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > My  advice to the independents is to keep alow profile 
> > until 
> > > > > > > after MMY dies and see if King Tony changes things a 
tad. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do you mean that MMY is a hindrance for teaching TM to 
> > people?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, duh.  :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Who has recently "decertified" all but a handful
> > > > > of his TM teachers and then raised the prices 
> > > > > such that the leftover handful can't find anyone
> > > > > to teach?  I think you'd have to be an absolute
> > > > > idiot to not view Maharishi as the biggest 
> > > > > obstacle to people learning TM.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But to think that "King Tony" is going to change
> > > > > anything is naive.  The direction of the movement
> > > > > is set.  TM is passé.
> > > > 
> > > > Never thought of it that way, but that is the practical 
effect.
> > > > Control is more important than than the benefits of the 
> > technique?
> > > > Or is it really all about the movement the dollars?
> > > 
> > > The dollars do seem to be the motivating factor.
> > > Every new scheme requires more of them, and 
> > > emphasizes the actual teaching of TM less.
> > > 
> > > The original message of spiritually regenerating
> > > the world "from the bottom up" by teaching people
> > > to meditate has clearly been superceded by the 
> > > message of "reconstructing" it "from the top down"
> > > via Sthapatya-Veda.  
> > > 
> > > We never know how long the "latest and greatest"
> > > Grand Scheme is going to last.
> > 
> > 
> > Prior to rebuilding the entire world via Vastu, there was Peace 
> > Palace Grand Scheme: building several thousand Peace Palaces 
> > throughout the world...at about $1 million a Peace Palace, 
that's 
> > about $2-3 billion.
> > 
> > I can't remember which came first, but around the time of the 
Vastu 
> > Grand Scheme, there was the $600 billion Agro Grand Scheme.
> > 
> > Between Agro and Vastu Grand Schemes there was perhaps a week or 
so.
> > 
> > Between Peace Palace Grand Scheme and either Agro or Vastu Grand 
> > Scheme (I can't remember which came first) there was at least a 
> > year, no?
> > 
> > Here's some more Grand Schemes off the top of my head:
> > 
> > Malls of America Grand Scheme
> > 
> > Tallest Building Grand Scheme
> > 
> > VedaLand Grand Scheme
> > 
> > Can anyone add to the list?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Maharishi International University Grand Scheme.
> 
> Maharishi Vidya Mandir Grand Scheme.
> 
> Maharishi's intent to make TM available all over the world Grand 
Scheme.
> 
> 
> Oh, did you only want examples of things you consider to be total 
failures, or do you 
> consider the above to be total failures as well?

Only the last one was a success. MIU was a failure...I'm not sure 
what vidya Mandir was...





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