On May 3, 2012, at 5:41 PM, cardemaister wrote:

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akandabaratam/message/29172


Nice find Card. Comments interleaved:

Makuta, Chandrajnana and Parameshvara Agama

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There is a major disconnect between what we read of Hinduism in the vedas, upanishads, itihasas and puranas, and what is practised today. Thats because the entire religion practised today is based on the Agamas; of temple worship, of home altar worship, of home sacraments, of festivals, pujas, homas, abishegams, of vratas and tapas, of annals of the Dieties, dikshas, gurus and birth to death
sacraments, etc.

This is precisely the case. There's actually very little left of Vedic religion other than some sacrificial rituals.


There is not much of the philosophy of the upanishads reflected at the ground level. When one enters the temple, one is aware of the Diety, the Vahana, and
the Altar - pati-pasu-pasam. One knows this is the philosophy of the
siddhantist*, an agamist, a tantrik, and not anything else. When one conducts a marriage or a funeral ceremony today, one is a siddhantist or agamist. Whether one cremates or buries, one is an agamist. When one mentally focusus on the Diety in the temple or home shrine, with the eyes open or closed during pujas,
one is a tantrik.

Again, right on the mark. The vast majority of Hinduism as it is practiced today is from the Agamas or the Tantras.


This disconnect between what is read and what is practised is serious, and served to provide an imbalanced and lopsided, nay, wrong view of Hinduism, both to the Hindus and the world at large. It distorted Hinduism. The writings on Hinduism in the last two hundred years did not contain anything on the agamas.

A lot of this has to do with the inheritance of the puritanical British who armed with their own religion, assumed 'the Hindus had to have their own Bible like we do'. The most highly placed folks were likely Brahmans and so the Bhagavad-gita and the Vedas got cast as "Hindu Bibles". Never mind the vast majority of what they're seeing in practice was Tantric or Agamic.


When one is not talking of the agamas, one is not talking of Hinduism, one is probably talking of something else, some other religion, probably some tradition that may have existed in the subcontinent in the remote past, or existed in parallel, or some socio-cultural myths and legends, all of which has little to do with Hindus today. When the agamas are juxtaposed with Hinduism on the
ground, it matches perfectly! What it says is what we practice.

These shastras, the vedas, upanishads, puranas and itihasas, manu shastras, etc., and the books written about them did not reflect the Hindu religion. It talked of something else while the Hindus believed and practiced something else. Thats because the agamas were not available, in devanagiri, hindi or english. It was only recently in the last few years that is was translated into english and these reviews of it in this last three months are the very first in all time. I
know of no others.

This is so true. Very little of the vast literature of the Agamas, Upa-agamas, etc. have never been translated.


It may be probable that when the early european indologists enquired about Hinduism, afraid that their shastras may be lost or stolen, the Hindus guided the indologists by leading them down the garden path on a goose chase with the vedas and puranas, but keeping quiet about the agamas. Then the early Indian writers followed that chase. And so on. Today we have a few thousand books that does not talk of the religion of the Hindus, but only on the fringes of it.

One teaching is exoteric, one is esoteric.


The only contribution from the 'vedic shastras' as mentioned above to Hinduism that is practised today are the mantras which are used in conducting pujas to
the dieties. Nothing more than that. Period!

Bingo.

Even the vedic mantras are
'modified' in that with the addition of 'aum', 'bija' mantras as prefixes, 'namaha' as suffix and where appropriate, 'svaha', these then are now converted
to agamic or tantrik mantras.

TM being a good example.

The agamas does not use the philosophy of the
upanishads at all. To be sure, it does not conflict with the upanishads, rather
praises it and the vedas, but overrides it completely and have its own
philosophy which may be called agamanta or simply siddhanta. The philosophy provided in the agamas is exacting and voluminous. As explained earlier, philosophy, meditation and yoga in the Ajita Agama is more than in the 108 upanishads combined. It is this philosophy that underpins all the rituals and practices of the Hindus. Philosophy is not just for introspection and discussing as many are apt to think, but to be used in everyday life, built into our daily actions. What is the philosophy underlying the act of placing a flower at a picture of a Diety while gazing at it with devotion, earnest hope and a silent
prayer?

The view obtained from the vedic shastras is on chanting of mantras, stress on dharma especially varnashrama, and myths. The view obtained from the agamas is worship of the dieties, and bakti. Period. Worship of the gods is the be all and
end all.

The restating, or re-presenting of Hinduism in a more balanced view would be the first step in reforming it as it immediately becomes clear that in Agama
Hinduism, there is no discrimination in temple entry, or in spiritual
initiations and sacraments, or study of shastras, as it is open for all men and women, regardless or race, caste or gender. And that salvation is open to all worshippers in this very life, regardless or karma, birth, gunas or even self realisation. The emphasis in on worship with little or no emphasis on dharma. The question of castes, outcastes, varnashrama dharma or study of vedic sanskrit texts and chants does not arise in Agama Hinduism. It is this that should be made clear to all Hindus and the world at large. This would be the centrality of
Hindu reform.

Agama is a generic term for any revealed shastra, however in popular usage the saiva agamas are called agamas, the vaishnava agamas are called samhitas, and the shakta agamas are called tantras. The etymology of agama is that, 'a' denotes that which is originated, 'ga' means emerging, and 'ma' means the religion. Another understanding is that 'a' means knowledge, 'ga' means
liberation, and 'ma' denotes the means of destroying the bonds.

Well said.


Whereas the vedas reaches out to God through devotional hymns, the agamas aims at invoking god within one's own self, and the worship and sacraments are geared towards this. The shastra that emerged where this special path which is founded on a definate principle on its own, and which is different from the vedic tradition, is known as the agama. The agamas are not just about temples and pujas, rather it has its own philosophy, independent of the upanishads, and its own myths, and its own worship and meditative practices. In short, its complete
and represents an entire religion, an entire tradition.

These three agamas were first translated and published in english between 1994-96. Clearly these three are Virasaiva agamas and extols that sect as supreme among all sects. The Makuta, Chandrajnana and Parameshvara agamas are listed as number 17, 19 and 26 respectively, making them late and of lesser
importance compared with the early agamas.

The translator, Dr. Ms Rama Ghose merely translated without an analysis of its historical dating, authenticity and possible accretions. We do not know the date of these agamas but it appears very late, possibly 12th-15th century, or perhaps
even later. These agamas do use jaati and varna terms but there is no
condescension of the different castes. It does note the jaati social observances of the times, without being critical. It outrightly rejects varnashrama dharma.

Unfortunately with secret traditions, they've often been passed down orally and so dating them by when they were written down is not typically a good dating mechanism.

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