I was attempting to be 'light-hearted' in my analysis of what I have percieved. If you are preaching non-judgement; I suggest you read through again, your step by step comments, and try to see that it is full of judgement through and through. I do believe that Maharishi is Enlightened, and I also believe that Mr. Nader exhibits qualities of enlightenment, also.
In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Though it's not good to be judgmental, maybe at least to be > > judgmental on the positive side, can be useful, once in a while. > > I'm unconvinced that it's not good to be judgmental. > Judgment is *not* necessarily a weighing of "right > and wrong," "good and evil," black and white. It's > not necessarily a process of filing complex events > into simplistic pigeonholes. > > It can be a process in which both intellect and > intuition and awareness of the general sensibilities > of the real world are involved, not with the goal of > assigning *blame*, but as a possible analysis of cause > and effect (as Shemp pointed out), of the relative > chances of success of a certain approach, or of just > trying to determine whether something is valuable > enough to continue to deserve one's attention. > > > Like, many have mentioned, Tony, though I have never met him > > personally, seems to be the most authentic of the bunch. > > > > He does have a dignity, and a radiance, emanating from him. > > and a sense of Unity, felt in his presence. > > Don't know. Never met the dude, don't expect to. > Bottom line for me is that he has allowed himself > to be dressed up as a clown and called something > he is not -- a king -- by someone who is not by > any stretch of the imagination a kingmaker. > > > Also, reading between the lines, and feeling the affection and > > admiration Maharishi expresses toward him, I would suspect that > > Mr. Nader is experiencing some kind of Unity Consciousness. > > I make no hard assumptions about *anyone's* state of > consciousness in the TM movement, not even Maharishi's. > I never assumed, even when he was a teacher, that he > was enlightened. If I had to apply judgment to that > assessment now, given what I've experienced and > learned in the time since TM, I would have to say > that nothing I ever heard, saw, or experienced > around him leads me to believe that he is even in > established (permanent) CC. As for Tony -- don't > know and don't care. A clown in unity is still a > clown. > > > As far as the golden crown, perhaps in the Lebanese part of the > > world, I see stranger costumes, than this; > > > > And in his country, this garb might not seem outrageous at all. > > According to Lebanese I've worked with, who happened > to see photos of him and commented on them in my > presence, it is considered even more outrageous there. > > > I think suits and ties get pretty boring after a while. > > > > And the kids seem to be into the hippie thing coming back. > > Dressing like kings and calling people "rajahs" > isn't "hippie," it's megalomania. > > > Sari's are beautiful; > > > > For the girls. > > To each his own. I've always thought it was a total > affectation, and it is viewed as such by the majority > of people I've met in spiritual movements. Indian > women wearing saris, no problem. Western women wear- > ing saris -- total affectation, total turnoff. > > > Actually, what was so strange; > > > > About the conference, was having so many kings, rajas, > > > > Present at once. > > > > Usually Kings like to be Kings, and Singular. > > > > So, even at Arthur's, or Jesus', or JFK, or MLK, they were > > singular. > > > > Tony is the only one I see, now, in the group - with the > > charisma, of a King. > > You see one more than I do. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
