--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 8/25/05 12:50 PM, "gerbal88" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > A true spiritual master shows you how to be
> > > your own master. I don't see MMY/MCS EVER dabbling in this sort 
of
> > > counterproductive thinking!
> > 
> > One thing is only obvious once one can gain some perspective
(e.g. 
> > after one has met a real master of meditation or yoga) or simply 
has 
> > deep discrimination (between the real and the phony). Once one
has 
> > met the former, it's immediately obvious what MMY represents.
> 
> Just to be fair, someone should point out that what
> you're calling a "real" master may just be one that
> appeals to your sensibilities or predilection.

Not sure if you were addressing Vaj or G (me); but from my 
perspective, I follow the advice given by HH the Dalai Lama: examine 
your teacher, even if it takes you 12 years.

When I (G) say "real" spiritual master, I mean someone who has 
demonstrated his own achievements to my questioning, skeptical mind 
and then laid out for me what I have to do if I want to get there. 

Then, I try it (complete with bitching and stupid questions) and see 
what happens. 

Something I learned from MMY/MCS: others may notice something before 
you do.

That's not altogether off track. I take the remarks of others with
the proverbial grain of sodium chloride -- but a home truth or two 
isn't always amiss, one way or another.

G




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