--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <snip> > > You see, Judy, I am much more jaded. I will NOT waste my time > > reading through 11 pages of platitudes and superlatives to find out > > what I should have gotten in the first paragraph. > > > > So, yes, I am lazy. From experience, the TMO has taught me to be... > > > > But kudos to you for having the time in your day to actually READ > > ALL of the Movement's publications. It must be heartwarming to the > > scribes that spit out this stuff in Holland to know that a TBer is > > taking the time out to actually READ this stuff... > > Actually I only read it when there's a good > reason to do so--say if I have made a claim > about something and it's challenged. Then I > may well read the whole thing to see whether > my claim holds up or not, 'cause I'd look > awfully silly quoting something in the early > paragraphs as support when it turns out > something later on showed I was wrong.
I'll call you disingenious instead of just outright calling you a liar, Judy, which is what you are so quick to call others. On October 16, 1998 at 12:00 a.m. in reference to Tony Nader and the gold, you said: "That's what the news release said explicitly that the gold was to be used for." > > <snip> > > > > Just the fact that the movement had to qualify what is was that > > > > Nader actually "received" by saying that the money was to > > > > be "deposited in a bank" -- where else was he going to keep > > > > it...under his mattress -- suggests some sneaky wording and > > > > shenanigans going on. > > > > > > Uh, no, it doesn't. This was all quite > > > straightforward as far as the transfer of money > > > was concerned. The point wasn't bank vs. > > > mattress; it was that the money wasn't for his > > > personal use. > > > > Gee, then say it in the first paragraph, don't call it an "award" > > and don't say that Nader "received" the money. > > As I already pointed out, this is standard > language. Scientists "receive awards" of money > to continue their research all the time, and > that's exactly how the process is described. > Nothing at all misleading about it. > > > > > Sorry, Judy, it was a horrible "publicity stunt" and one that > > was > > > > not successful at all. > > > > > > As I said, it was extremely successful, got all > > > kinds of coverage at the time. It did just what > > > publicity stunts are supposed to do: enticed > > > reporters to attend in order to hear the spiel, > > > in the hope that some of them will reproduce some > > > of it in their news stories, which they did. The > > > TM folks got to talk about the scientific research > > > on TM, including Nader's, and just generally pitch > > > TM and its theories as a formula for fixing the > > > world. > > > > Yeah, it worked out really, really well. > > > > It really increased the credibility of TM and the TMO in the eyes > > of all the mainstream reporters that either attended the press > > conference or read about it. Yeah, they really took seriously a > > purported scientist and grown man sitting on a scale having himself > > weighed in gold. > > They all knew it was a publicity stunt, Shemp. > But it was a splashy, fun story, and in order to > have a basis for publishing it, they had to put in > a little something about the TM research and the > goals of the movement, which was why the stunt > was devised in the first place. It accomplished > exactly what the TMO wanted it to accomplish. > > Reporters, and most people with any sense, > understand about publicity stunts. They > enjoy the stunt and hopefully absorb a little > of the substance. > > If you're objecting that they'd have found the > substance foolish, it's a different story, as I said: > > > > Then your argument is with TM > > > for having such a spiel in the first place, not for > > > holding publicity stunts to promote the spiel. > > > That's what publicity stunts *do*, promote spiels. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
