Sorry for the late reply, emptybill. I was off the grid for a week.
Please note that Robin's experience of being "controlled" by something else implies 'duality'. Basic logic suggests that such a duality-like experience cannot be unity by any standards. I agree, it dosen't sound Advaitic. --- "emptybill" <emptybill@...> wrote: > > > Jason > > As you seem to have learned in your inquiries, you can't take > Robin's solipsistic hermeneutics too seriously. His framework for > comparing Yoga/Vedanta/"Eastern spirituality" against some sort > of quasi-neo-Thomism is myopic at best - although in actuality it is > simply uninformed. I think even he does not take it too seriously > except on this forum and then only for the purposes of argument. > > In this vein, Robin parrots Maharishi's schema, along with the > assertion that he received MMY's grand imprimatur of "Unity > Consciousness". He then counter-poses this to the further claim that > he renounced "Unity Consciousness", all with the usual > smack-downs of those o'-so-manipulative Eastern demons/angels/false > gods. The whole parade is a caricature of good ol' Christian faith > versus that cloaked mirage of Eastern "demonology". > > Yep, no flailing ego here Jason just surrender to the L-a-r-d. > > Contrary to the usual claims, what Maharishi actually taught was a type > of meditative phenomenology which he called Yoga or Vedânta but was > fundamentally his own creation. Looked at more closely in this light, > Robin's assertions demonstrate that he is uneducated about traditional > Advaita and what it really asserts. > > Such is his "Christian critique" although Robin would probably > do better if he would simply repeat the arguments of Catholic Answers > Magazine. > > Please continue asking him questions it will be somewhat > entertaining. That is as long as we can take endless minutes to wade > through Robin's excessive discursiveness. Don't expect much > however. In the end, he is just an ideologue which is the final > admission that his own claims of enlightenment and dis-enlightenment > were always fantasy interpretations about his "sublime spiritual > realization". > > So then so now. > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > Robin, the last supper ritual (eucharist) of breaking bread > > and wine is an ancient ritual that pre-dates christianity. > > > > Many ancient middle-eastern religions like Mitraism had this > > ritual and Christianity borrowed it from them and continued > > the practice as it's own. > > > > By the way, I wonder what did you actually learn when you > > were with Maharishi? You could elaborate on that. > > > > > > --- "Robin Carlsen" maskedzebra@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jason, > > > > > > Just so you don't misunderstand me: The Allied Bombing of Monte > Cassino did not CAUSE anything to happen; it is just the event which > marks off for mechronologically and approximatelywhen the > universe was no longer the same. I have no idea whatsoever the precise > moment when the Trinitarian God changed things up. I just know that he > must have, because when I look at footage of the world before that > event, it is a different kind of universe. I apprehend that difference > as ontological. [It was about saving one's soul.] The personal God was > present to his Creation; he ain't nowhere to be found now. > > > > > > Tolkien's description of the Eucharist makes no sense to me except > that when he first experienced this sacrament the universe was set up so > that he would apprehend this event in the way that forms his judgment of > its significance, which he relates to his son. No one is getting any > kind of experience from the Eucharist nowsince the ABMCwhich > could account for what Tolkien says to his son. Tolkien after the ABMC > just lived on the memory of that sacrament as he experienced it 'in the > good old days'. > > > > > > Finally, you must know, Jason, that I carry no sense of pride or > accomplishment in looking back on having 'become enlightened'. In the > case of myself, I believe this was only able to happen because of > profound infirmities within me as a person, infirmities albeit I was > completely unaware of. Enlightenment was a glorious experience, but I > feel in the end I was just being mocked by the intelligences which had > produced this "different style of functioning" (MMY).That said, my > experience of those on FFL who remain loyal to TM and Maharishi, > indicates this remains a positive context for them. And I don't think > the infirmity thing necessarily applies at all. > > > > > > I'll remember about the dung next time. > > > > > > Robin > > > >
