I think this mimicry comment is sort of ridiculous. When I was around MMY in the 70's, I wasn't comparing him to anyone else. Nor did I have any expectations about what it would feel like to be in his "presence". And yet, being around him, there was a palpable difference in bliss level, wakefulness of consciousness, etc. It wasn't even necessary to be in the same room with him, so Gerbal's comments about the intensity of personality of someone don't seem to have much to do with it either.
Does this have anything to do with whether or not MMY was/is a good teacher? Or had/has good intentions for his students and for the world? I don't see why these would necessarily be connected. --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 8/27/05 9:56 AM, "TurquoiseB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The question from my point of view, 28 years away > > from it, is -- was it darshan or was it something > > else, something more occult? I don't have an > > answer to this question, because it really has > > been so long since I've been in Maharishi's > > presence, but I wonder about it sometimes. > > It's been interesting to watch this whole idea of "darshan" as something > "important" develop. From my perspective, it's largely an artifact of > spiritual materialism and one-upmanship in the spiritual supermarket. > > Originally "darshan" was just hanging with the guru. > > It began to take importance as a buzzword when Baba Muktananda brought the > Siddha tradition to the west. In his trad. darshan *is important* because it > is part and parcel of how the teaching was transmitted. He (and his > successors) had the unique siddhi of transmitting shakti, either > deliberately, or just by being in their presence during nightly "darshan". > Attending one of these events one would see people who had never meditated > going into deep spontaneous absorptions, assuming yoga asanas spontaneously > and a long list of experiences. > > Good news like this spread fast. It also upped the ante in the spiritual > supermarket. If we had the "highest" teaching, then surely OUR teacher had a > profound "darshan" as well! Never mind if you were from a totally different > tradition where shaktipat was *not* part of the game plan--darshan was HOT > and everybody had to have it. It became like "my father is stronger than > your father kind of mentality." > > I'm surprised someone hasn't developed a darshan rating scale. > > Any hew, then MMY just HAD to have a good darshan. Man that's where it's at! > But it's really mimicry of the most pathetic kind IMO. > > My .02 USD ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
