--- In [email protected], gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > --- wayback71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <huge snippage> > > > But it really has been over 28 years since I last > > saw Maharishi, and at that time I hadn't been > > exposed to a teaching that taught you to tell > > the difference between the two energies. So I > > really don't know which was going down with him. > > Personally, I never experienced a great deal of > > what I would call darshan with him, period. I > > definitely agree with the comments here this > > morning by those who did, however -- there was > > a certain swept-up-in-it-all-ness about being > > around him that was pretty fascinating, and > > still is. > > > > If others, having seen him more recently, have > > any comments to make, I for one would love to > > hear them. > > > > Unc > > I last saw MMY in 1975. However, soon thereafter, I had occasion to > work with an individual legally certified as "sociopathic". (This was > in a prision situation.) There was a similar intensity. > > Sometime after this, I worked with an obsessive compulsive > ("workaholic") who also radiated a very similar intensity. > > I think that MMY has too many social skills to fit a sociopathic > characterization; but narcissistic would seem accurate. I don't think > anyone ever missed his workaholic intensity, either. > > I can see how this sort of intensity could be mistaken for something > other than what it was: plain old intensity of personality. His > complete disregard for persons other than himself could also be > easily taken for something totally different than what it was as well. > > Later still, I met a genuine Zen Master* who didn't come across > anything like MMY. I think this was the first inclination I had that > things hadn't been what they had seemed, what I had taken them for. > > I find it very interesting to note, nowadays, how I put meaning on > experiences and situations. Remembering these experiences has been > quite valuable in this regard. > > HH the Dalai Lama radiates no end of intensity, but it is different > in every way from what I had previously experienced. His intensity is > focused on the well being of everyone other than himself.
...fat lot of good it did the 1.5 million of his people that died under his watch and the millions more of his people who suffered because of his myopic, anything-but-non-violent philosophy. I apologize to the group to keep harping on this fellow but it irks me no end that we automatically rever and praise this man whose very actions produced the very opposite of the non-violence that he is supposed to be so knowledgable about... > > I had occasion in the past couple of years, to spend time with > Thrangu Rinpoche, appointed by HH the Dalai Lama to tutor the young > Karmapa. Thrangu Rinpoche exudes a very similar kindness, concern and > penetration (words get kind of useless here). > > I think it is a matter not only of some specific learning (as from > teachings/books) but also direct experience/interaction of a wide > variety. It would be no problem whatsoever, having only known MMY, to > conclude with absolute certainty that he is the real thing. > > Having met many teachers, it is now not a problem to conclude with a > fair degree of certainty [like everything, constantly subject to > change, of course] that MMY is in no way "the real thing". He is > clever, intelligent, quickwitted, charismatic and widely experienced. > This enables him to play god better than god, but doesn't make him > the real thing. > > _________ > * "genuine Zen Master" -- well, what did I know? But he was highly > regarded and absolutely nothing like MMY, nothing like I expected. > > G ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
