I don't know about anyone else, but being 25+ years away from the TMO and its indoctrination, the very fact that thousands of people who first signed up for TM with the understanding that it was non-religious and that their mantras had no meaning would GO for the idea of yagyas "performed in their name" was mind- boggling. I mean, somewhere along the line all these practical people "switched allegiance" from a practical scientific technique to paying money so that someone could chant to the gods in their name so that their bunions would be less painful. Go figure.
Didn't anyone else even *notice* this rather significant "phase shift?" --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <snip> > > > Even if you saw a live, realtime Hi Def Video feed or your > > > yagya, > > > how do you know its YOUR yagya. For all you know, it could > > > be any > > > yagya. > > > > The TMO yagya program I linked to in my response to > > Shemp (www.vedicpandits.org) suggests you invite your > > relatives in India (the program is aimed at Indians > > living in the U.S.) to attend the yagya and greet you > > via live videocam before and after the yagya, then > > you and the relatives can join in performingkirtan > > together. > > > > If you don't have any relatives living in India, I > > guess you're out of luck on that one. But it seems > > to me that the invite-your-relatives suggestion may > > be at least partly an effort to address the concern > > you mention. > > But for the cost premium for TMO yagyas over PujaNet and others, one > could fly to India first class, stay in 5 star hotels and attend (and > video) the yagyas themselves. Perhaps even invite friends to attend. > > And to me the TMO video "offer" has the scent of so many India TMO > programs - good and attractive ideas promoted on web sites, but the > implementation and current reality a bit sketchy. > > > ------------------------- > > > And looking at the pictures in your link, the pundits are clearly > teenage student pundits -- not "real" fully trained and experienced > pundits. The teenage pundits surely can do some basic yagyas, but are > far from being expert in all aspects of yagya as are fully trained, > well experienced pundits. > > But you say, perhaps, "yes, but these teen pundits do TM and yogic > flying, so they are functioning form the home of all the laws of > nature and thus there yagysa are far more powerful." > > I used to think such. And questioned Ben Collins a lot on this in the > late 90's. What I have come to understand, observe, and realize is > that mature, fully trained, well experience pundits, have a very > powerful sadhana of doing the yagyas, sometimes 8-12 hours a day. They > may do some meditation or orther practices too. Or not. But the long > yagyas are more powerful than doing puja 12 hours a day. And having > done that, I can attest the effects are far more powerful than TM and > some yogic flying. > > I am not attempting to pigeonhole your views. I am just stating that > if one assumes that pundits not doing TM and yogic flying have no > contact with Pure Consciousness and the Divine, I strongly disagree. > if you attend some yagyas, it just becomes so obvious these guys are > swimming in the subtle realms and source of the laws of nature. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
