Paying priests in India to do yagyas at a fraction of the cost that 
your Malibu priests would charge you?

Sounds like outsourcing to me... -):


--- In [email protected], "benjaminccollins" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'v enjoyed reading all the discussions in yagyas.  I, of course, 
have
> my own perspective on this subject and thought that I add a few
> observations.  
> 
> Yagyas are a tool for evolution, just like TM is.  There is much 
to be
> learned and one ultimately comes to one's own conclusions regarding
> yagyas and how they should be performed etc.
> 
> I started puja.net about 10 years ago after my first trip to 
India. 
> For me it was out of necessity because I couldn't afford the TMO
> yagyas.  So a group of my friends got together and shared the 
cost. 
> We had group yagyas once a month for many years at the Malibu 
Temple.
>  It was great to be there in person.  
> 
> We all found that small yagyas performed over and over had 
significant
> effects.  It was another way of accomplishing what might otherwise
> cost $10,000 with the TM yagyas.  Is one approach any better than 
the
> others?  Who knows and I doubt there is an objective criteria 
anyway.
>  We liked them and $51 per month made it possible to continue 
without
> a big financial strain.
> 
> As the group grew, we started having yagyas in India with a group 
of 5
> priests all of whom were from the Shankara Mutt and were well 
known by
> Seetharam, the Chief Priest at the Shiva temple in Malibu.  So we
> gradually added more days of yagyas and our little group continued 
to
> grow. 
> 
> We pay our priests about $40 per day for 5-6 hours work.  I fully
> realize that you could pay much much less.  But it seems to me 
that if
> anyone deserves to be well paid, it is the priests that are doing 
this
> kind of work for you.  My observation based on hundreds of yagyas 
is
> that the priest's consciousness is an important link in the overall
> success of the yagya.  I want them to feel honored and well paid.  
> 
> I have seen first hand how hard it is to be a priest in India. It 
is a
> tough life unless you are born into a family of priests that has a
> heriditary place in a big temple.  They are not guaranteed 
employment
> and yet are expected to be married and have children.  It can be 
very
> very difficult to make a good living there.
> 
> So I know we pay more than we have to.  But in the overall scheme 
of
> our western lives, the difference is not so much to us, and hugely
> different to them. 
> 
> As an act of considerable faith and generosity, Seetharam took his 
own
> money and bought a facility for us to use in Kanchipuram.  It is a
> great little temple town about 1 hour from Madras.  Our "house" was
> owned by a Brahmin who was the temple cook.  Now, it is what they 
call
> in India a "devastanum"  a place of God.  No one lives there.  It 
is
> only used for yagyas for the past couple years and has a genuine
> purity in the air.  We wanted to be close to the temples, but also
> away from the "public" vibe in the large temples.  This allows us 
more
> control over what happens during the yagyas.
> 
> We have experimented with a number of innovations.  Firstly, I call
> India every night to listen to the chanting during yagya time.  I 
have
> a standing invitation to any sponsor who wants to hear their yagya
> being performed to listen as long as they want.
> 
> We also go out into the countryside near Kanchipuram and perform a 
big
> yagya in a local temple.  We spend a lot of money on this because
> these are smaller temple where the local populace can't afford to
> perform the yagyas on the same scale.  This yagya is video taped 
and,
> although it may take some time, I usually distribute a CD of the 
yagya
> to the sponsors afterwards.
> 
> In fact, any FFL member who wants a yagya CD can contact me and 
I'll
> gladly send you one.  It is great to see them being performed in a
> traditional setting.
> 
> In the end, I have ended up in the same place that I started.  That
> is, yagyas are a form of service, a form of spiritual practice, a 
form
> of prayer, a means to personal evolution.  They are not some sort 
of
> cosmic ordering service..."I want money so here's a yagya,
> Lakshmi...kindly deliver!"  In fact that is the best way to make 
sure
> they don't work.  
> 
> The good priests are very humble, very respectful, and very 
talented
> individuals. To me it doesn't matter if they are puja.net, TMO,
> yagya-by-choice..they are all doing the best they can with this
> ancient and traditional "technology".  They deserve our respect.
> 
> So in conclusion, I'd say that yagyas are about empowerment.  They 
are
> all about empowering the divine in you and as a result enabling 
you to
> manifest the results that you desire in life.  Whether you use
> puja.net or yagyas by choice is really a matter of personal 
preference
> and style.  
> 
> And this is where the skeptics get it right.  They point out that 
it
> is <you> who have to change.  Yagyas don't do it for you, but they
> give you a boost in the right direction and smooth the path.  So 
does
> meditation, so does puja, and so do a lot of other things like 
sports,
> and art, and service, and study, etc.  Because they are all the 
tools
> with which you build your life.  It is just a matter of what ones 
you
> want to use.  
> 
> /ben  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > Akasha,  I just received notice that I'm on for September 1
> evaluation for the big enchilada Jump Start.  I'll be given more
> detail tomorrow.
> > 
> > As I said, their website is purposely set up to be difficult to
> navigate.  It's not Amazon or iHerb.  They want you to know what
> you're getting into, why and what you'll be getting.  And they are
> quite responsive.  How very refreshing.
> > 
> > I don't think these are temple yagyas.  Puja.net's yagyas are
> performed in the house formerly owned by the cook at the big Vishnu
> temple across the street in Kanchipurinam.  The yagyas are done 
near
> the residences of the pundits, I suspect.  I know you're invited to
> watch your yagya being performed.  
> > 
> > I've already felt a result since I made a decision to go with 
these
> people.  I've felt more elevated.  Highest first sort of thing. 
> Haven't looked at a single p0rn picture on my PC all day.
> > 
> > I do still find this URL a riot, however:
> > 
> > http://toccionline.kizash.com/films/1001/178/index.php
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: akasha_108 
> >   To: [email protected] 
> >   Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 3:55 PM
> >   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yagna by Choice
> > 
> > 
> >   Thanks Tom. That helps. 
> > 
> >   Re:
> >   http://www.yagna.by-choice.com/monthlys.htm .  
> >   You are right, I had not yet found that page. Thats the info I 
was
> >   seeking. Their website, though spiffy, is a bit hard to 
navigate, IMO 
> > 
> >   Where are their temples located ?
> > 
> >   Keep us posted on the results. I will probably do some 
planetaries
> >   soon and try them out.




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