--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > I did a search on 'Bush's Obscene Tirades' and found > > > that a lot of other websites carried the article. > > > > Yeah, but you won't find it on any of the *major* > > political blogs. I checked a few of the ones that > > had posted it, and they were really fringe-lefty > > blogs, the kind who don't much care whether the > > information they post is reliable. (Unfortunately > > Randi Rhodes of Air America has it on *her* blog. > > She ought to know better.) > > > > If it had appeared on Daily Kos or Atrios or Political > > Animal or TPM Cafe or Huffpost, then you might want to > > give it *some* measure of credibility. I see people in > > the Comments sections of these blogs posting links to > > Capitol Hill Blue articles, and they almost always get > > slapped down by other folks who tell them not to put > > any faith in it (and these are very anti-Bush folks). > > Hmmm. Why does this remind me of what almost > *everyone* in the News business said about > Woodward and Bernstein when they first started > publishing their stuff about Watergate?
You mean, that W&B's story was dubious because they were publishing it in a tiny little newspaper that was known to be unreliable, rather than in a respectable outlet like The Washington Post? > > If it turns out to be true, all these people > dumping on Capitol Hill Blue will somehow > forget their criticisms and claim to have > been the ones who "really" broke the story. :-) > > > Apparently it's published big "scoops" in the past > > that have turned out to be pure garbage. > > > > If you'll notice, a good portion of the article is > > taken up with quoting this guy who wrote a book > > supposedly psychoanalyzing Bush, and everything > > else is attributed to unnamed sources. There's > > zero hard information in it. > > > > > Until I see it on something like CNN, though, I won't > > > be convinced the article is not a spoof. It sounds too > > > outrageous to be true. > > > > It isn't a spoof, but it is outrageous. It's just > > mostly made up. Bush apparently *did* give the > > finger to some reporters recently, and one of them > > got a photo of it. I suspect that's what gave > > CHB the idea for the article. Lots of people have > > seen the photo, and referring to it in the article > > appears to give the rest of it more credibility. > > > > If Bush *were* given to obscene tirades to the > > scandalous extent the article says, you probably > > wouldn't hear it on CNN, but you would likely see > > references to it in some of the respectable > > political blogs on the Web, because it would > > get around. If those bloggers heard it from > > someone they trusted, they'd post it. > > > > But if the *only* place you see something is > > on Capitol Hill Blue, you can most likely chalk > > it up and forget it. > > > > "If it sounds too good to be true," and all that. > > > > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Don't mean to spoil the fun, but as it happens > > > > Capitol Hill Blue is NOT considered a reliable > > > > source. They seem to take little bits of facts > > > > and then, er, embroider them rather significantly. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml > > > > > > > > > > From Capitol Hill Blue > > > > > > > > > > Bush Leagues Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White > > > > House Aides By DOUG > > > > > THOMPSON Aug 25, 2005, 06:19 > > > > > > > > > > While President George W. Bush travels around the > > > > country in a last- > > > > ditch > > > > > effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides > > > > scramble frantically > > > > behind > > > > > the scenes to hide the dark mood of an > > > > increasingly angry leader who > > > > > unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who > > > > dares disagree > > > > with him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ³I¹m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,² > > > > Bush screamed at > > > > aides > > > > > who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, > > > > the war-protesting > > > > mother > > > > > whose son died in Iraq. ³She can go to hell as far > > > > as I¹m concerned! > > > > ² > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush flashes the bird, something aides say he does > > > > often and has > > > > been doing > > > > > since his days as governor of Texas. Bush, > > > > administration aides > > > > confide, > > > > > frequently explodes into tirades over those who > > > > protest the war, > > > > calling > > > > > them ³motherfucking traitors.² He reportedly was > > > > so upset over > > > > Veterans of > > > > > Foreign Wars members who wore ³bullshit > > > > protectors² over their ears > > > > during > > > > > his speech to their annual convention that he told > > > > aides to ³tell > > > > those VFW > > > > > assholes that I¹ll never speak to them again if > > > > they can¹t keep > > > > their > > > > > members under control.² > > > > > > > > > > White House insiders say Bush is growing > > > > increasingly bitter over > > > > mounting > > > > > opposition to his war in Iraq. Polls show a vast > > > > majority of > > > > Americans now > > > > > believe the war was a mistake and most doubt the > > > > President¹s > > > > honesty. > > > > > > > > > > ³Who gives a flying fuck what the polls say,² he > > > > screamed at a > > > > recent > > > > > strategy meeting. ³I¹m the President and I¹ll do > > > > whatever I > > > > goddamned > > > > > please. They don¹t know shit.² > > > > > > > > > > Bush, while setting up for a photo op for signing > > > > the recent CAFTA > > > > bill, > > > > > flipped an extended middle finger to reporters. > > > > Aides say the > > > > President > > > > > often ³flips the bird² to show his displeasure and > > > > tells aides who > > > > disagree > > > > > with him to ³go to hell² or to ³go fuck yourself.² > > > > His habit of > > > > giving > > > > > people the finger goes back to his days as Texas > > > > governor, aides > > > > admit, and > > > > > videos of him doing so before press conferences > > > > were widely > > > > circulated among > > > > > TV stations during those days. A recent video > > > > showing him shooting > > > > the > > > > > finger to reporters while walking also recently > > > > surfaced. > > > > > > > > > > Bush¹s behavior, according to prominent Washington > > > > psychiatrist, > > > > Dr. Justin > > > > > Frank, author of ³Bush on the Couch: Inside the > > > > Mind of the > > > > President,² is > > > > > all too typical of an alcohol-abusing bully who is > > > > ruled by fear. > > > > > > > > > > To see that fear emerges, Dr. Frank says, all one > > > > has to do is > > > > confront the > > > > > President. ³To actually directly confront him in a > > > > clear way, to > > > > bring him > > > > > out, so you would really see the bully, and you > > > > would also see the > > > > fear,² he > > > > > says. > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Frank, in his book, speculates that Bush, an > > > > alcoholic who > > > > brags that he > > > > > gave up booze without help from groups like > > > > Alcoholics Anonymous, > > > > may be > > > > > drinking again. > > > > > > > > > > ³Two questions that the press seems particularly > > > > determined to > > > > ignore have > > > > > hung silently in the air since before Bush took > > > > office,² Dr. Frank > > > > says. ³Is > > > > > he still drinking? And if not, is he impaired by > > > > all the years he > > > > did spend > > > > > drinking? Both questions need to be addressed in > > > > any serious > > > > assessment of > > > > > his psychological state.² > > > > > > > > > > Last year, Capitol Hill Blue learned the White > > > > House physician > > > > prescribed > > > > > anti-depressant drugs for the President to control > > > > what aides called > > > > > ³violent mood swings.² As Dr. Frank also notes: > > > > ³In writing about > > > > Bush's > > > > > halting appearance in a press conference just > > > > before the start of > > > > the Iraq > > > > > War, Washington Post media critic Tom Shales > > > > speculated that the > > > > president > > > > > may have been ever so slightly medicated.¹² > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Frank explains Bush¹s behavior as > > > > all-to-typical of an > > > > alcoholic who is > > > > > still in denial: > > > > > > > > > > ³The pattern of blame and denial, which recovering > > > > alcoholics work > > > > so hard > > > > > to break, seems to be ingrained in the alcoholic > > > > personality; it's > > > > rarely > > > > > limited to his or her drinking,² he says. ³The > > > > habit of placing > > > > blame and > > > > > denying responsibility is so prevalent in George > > > > W. 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