--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > My immediate impression of his statement would lead me to
> > > > > question whether this person had learned to separate 
> samsaric 
> > > > > patterns from nirvanic ones. 
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know (or care) who "this person" is, but my 
impression 
> > > > would be that separation of samsaric patterns from nirvanic 
> ones 
> > > > could easily perpetuate ignorance, as the body-knowing is 
that 
> > > > samsara is nirvana, and nirvana is samsara.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, there are clearly many other valid 
> > > understandings embracing separation or distinction between 
> nirvana 
> > > and samsara, so who am I to pontificate; Wholeness is truly 
> > > indescribable (or is it?) :-)
> > 
> > The trouble with Wholeness is that it's
> > not not-anything.
> 
> Yes. It would appear that Wholeness is the YES to whatever we 
> (meaning the consensus of all the various conscious (and sub- and 
> superconscious) elements in the bodymind) ask of (or expect from, 
or 
> attend to in) Life, with all of the other unasked-for or 
unattended-
> to elements still present, but relegated more to the background. 
It 
> would seem that movement, Space-time, is merely the appearance of 
> these various YES-crystallizations from Wholeness in a sequence of 
> response to the ego's desire, like the various bulbs in an old-
> fashioned movie marquee, flicking on and off in sequence to give 
the 
> appearance of a singe bulb in motion. But in truth there may be a 
> great many bulbs, all simultaneously present, but with only one or 
> two lit at a given moment of attention :-)

Well said! Makes for all possibilities a reality! Shaving time down 
to infinitesimal units, almost made into waves of time space by the 
memory. The more conscious we are of the universal reality contained 
within such ever smaller units, the more likely it is that 
*anything* can occur from one moment to the next. 

I saw something last night while sleeping which illustrated clearly 
the response to the ego's desire, in that while I was sleeping, I 
witnessed the birth of a thought, and the thought by itself was 
interesting, but I wanted to enjoy it more fully, so out of nowhere 
I dreamt the perfect analogue of the thought, as if one was a 
written line and the other was a painting or movie sequence based on 
the writing. Then, enjoying and learning from the dreaming, I 
continued to dream for awhile.





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