--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > RE Being There -- it seems an odd choice if one is viewing it 
as a
> > > good representation. Maybe its been too long since I have seen 
it, 
> > or perhaps I missed something, but i remember it as a very funny 
> > SATIRE!.
> > > 
> > > It was making fun of "enlightenment" figures who spout wisdom 
that
> > > seems no more profound than the mundane mutterings of a common
> > > gardener. It was NOT saying that the Sellers character WAS 
> > enlightened and this is how it is. Or did I miss something.
> > 
> > You may have missed the last scene in which he was walking on 
water, 
> > IIRC ...:-)
> 
> 
> That water scene, as I recall, captured the point of the film. The
> simple gardner was a mirror onto which everyone projected their own
> stuff, their own fantasies and insights they wanted to hear. Yet
> Chauncy was just a simple naive bummbler, with no pretentions, not
> much discernable touch with reality, and no special skills or
> insights. He did not even understand how people percieved him or 
what
> the fuss was about. 
> 
> The water scene showed both realities.
> 
> From Chancey's perspective, he had no ability to discern reality 
from
> non-reality. He accepted that he was walking on water, he accepted
> something unreal as real, an illusion, as perhaps some accept they 
can
> fly or that the Pundits are coming. 
> 
> From the perspective of those looking for a "message" -- both
> characters in the film, and those watching the film, who see 
nothing
> but their own projections of wisdom and insight in platitudes -- 
they
> continued to see "wisdom" and miracles where there were none. The
> author contined to pull the rug out from under them.
> 
> Do you really think in that ending Kozinsky  was saying, "yes, what
> Chauncy was saying is all true, and he really deservesd to be
> president, he is indeed a wise man."? No, he was laughing his head 
off
> and satirizing the gullibility of people and the folly of their 
grand
> projections of wisdom onto someone who is delusional, unable to
> discern reality from non-reality.

Actually, I liked better what you said above -- the water showed 
both realities. I prefer the ambiguity of Chauncy-as-mirror :-)




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