--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > In light of both last year's tsunami and Katrina, the issue 
has 
> > > been 
> > > > brought up in the media that the loss of human life and 
damages 
> > in 
> > > > BOTH cases could have been greatly minimized had proper 
> > preparation 
> > > > been made.
> > > > 
> > > > It wasn't that experts didn't envision that a tsunami could 
> > happen 
> > > > or that the levees in New Orleans could have broken, it's 
just 
> > the 
> > > > odds seemed to make it so unlikely that public policy in 
this 
> > area 
> > > > didn't make spending the millions or billions to prevent 
what 
> > could 
> > > > have been prevented.
> > > > 
> > > > I contrast this with the building of hydro-electric dams.  
The 
> > > > little I know about them is this: a dam is built in order to 
> > create 
> > > > a massive reservoir of water so that the power of the water 
> from 
> > > > these masses can be channeled into turning turbines which, 
in 
> > turn, 
> > > > create electricity.
> > > > 
> > > > But the danger inherent in every dam in spillover: too much 
> > water 
> > > in 
> > > > a reservoir can either destroy the environment or -- as is 
the 
> > case 
> > > > with Hoover Dam -- destroy the generating facility. 
> > > > 
> > > > So with every dam is built a "spillway", a structure in 
which 
> > > > spillovers can be safely channelled away from creating a 
> > disaster.  
> > > > At Hoover DAm you can see a massive concrete tunnel beside 
the 
> > > > facility built specifically for this purpose.
> > > > 
> > > > I once took a tour of a hydroelectric dam in Northern Quebec 
at 
> > > > James Bay.  At one point beside the reservoir near a dyke 
was a 
> > > > massive set of concrete steps that, I was told, cost 
hundreds 
> of 
> > > > millions of dollars to build and, at the top of the stairs 
> built 
> > > > into the side of the reservoir was a gate that could be 
opened; 
> > a 
> > > > spillway in other words.
> > > > 
> > > > The tour guide mentioned that, statistically, overspill 
would 
> > > happen 
> > > > only once every 100 years!
> > > > 
> > > > Yet the company spent hundreds of millions of dollars to 
plan 
> > for 
> > > > something that the builders would, statistically, not even 
see 
> > in 
> > > > their own lifetime, not ever see the practical benefit of.
> > > > 
> > > > This type of planning happened with private enterprise (note 
> > that 
> > > > Bechtel built the dam, please!) Perhaps there is a 
disconnect 
> > > > between this type of planning in private enterprise and 
public 
> > > > policy enterprises...
> > > 
> > > You don't read much on this group. The $250 million that was 
to 
> be 
> > > spent last year on strengthening New Orlean's levees was spent 
on 
> > the 
> > > war in Iraq instead.
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, I read that (I believe it was Judy who posted the 
article).  
> > Indeed, it only strengthens the argument that I am 
making...perhaps 
> > private enterprise would have had their priorities right.
> 
> Are you saying that private enterprises don't control the federal 
> government's budget?

Yes.

100 Senators, 435-odd Representatives in the House of 
Representatives and the President control the government's budget.




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