--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/1/05 4:36:10 P.M. Central Daylight > > Time, > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Again: With projects designed to prevent or mitigate > > > > > > the effects of a natural disaster, it is CHEAPER FOR > > > > > > THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to pay for the projects than it > > > > > > is to PAY FOR THE RELIEF EFFORT AND THE RECONSTRUCTION. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not to mention, in this case, having to deal with the > > > > > > disruption in the oil supply. > > > > > > > > > > > > Major natural disasters affect the entire country, > > > > > > not just the immediate areas where they happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is VERY MUCH IN THE GOVERNMENT'S INTEREST to fund > > > > > > such projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not real complicated to understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again the federal government did fund the project. It > never > > > > > intended to fund > > > > > > it 100%. And when federal funding was cut by 44% it was up > > to > > > > the > > > > > state and > > > > > > local governments to make up the difference and they could > > > have, > > > > > they chose > > > > > > not to. What you are proposing is the city and state > refuse > > to > > > > > take any > > > > > > responsibility for their own protection and demand the > > federal > > > > > government do it all > > > > > > and if they don't we'll make you pay for the mess should > one > > > > > occur. That's > > > > > > called blackmail. It's like a person holding a gun to his > > head > > > > > demanding > > > > > > favors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why was it that after 9-11 Rudy Giuliani became known > > > as "America's > > > > > Mayor"? I think it's because, first and foremost, it is the > > > local > > > > > officials who must take responsibility for disasters. And > then > > > > > there was Pataki on the scene as well. Certainly, Bush > entered > > > the > > > > > scene and gave moral support as well as federal funds and, > of > > > > > course, because the attack was from the air, the federal Air > > > Force > > > > > got involved and air traffic stopped for several days...but > my > > > > > image is of the local and state officials taking charge and > > > running > > > > > the show. > > > > > > > > > > Certainly, things are NOT being run properly and, yes, it is > > > fair > > > > > and proper to assign blame. But why the apparent focus on > the > > > Feds? > > > > > > > > Do you suppose part of it was that after 9/11, except > > > > for the immediate area of the disaster, the city's > > > > infrastructure was still working just fine and we > > > > didn't *need* the feds to come in? > > > > > > All bridges to the city closed off? Much of telephone > > > communication cut off? Roads clogged? Sorry, I don't think > that > > > is indicative of "infrastructure working just fine". > > > > Well, actually what it's indicative of is that > > you don't know what the hell you're talking about. > > > > Phone service was just fine everywhere but in the > > immediate area. > > No, it wasn't. > > My brother lives in Brooklyn and it took me 3 days to contact him. > I finally got him on cell phone. Brooklyn isn't in Manhattan.
There may have been temporary interruptions here and there for the first day or two, but the vast majority of the phone service was functioning just fine, as I said. And any problems outside the immediate area of the disaster were more likely from overload--everybody calling everybody else to see if they were OK--than a breakdown in the service itself. So, since all your claims about New York's infrastructure not functioning after 9/11 turned out to be bogus, are you going to withdraw your comparison? > > Yes, I was able to contact a friend of his who lives in Manhattan > but that took me 24 hours. > > > > TV and radio stations affected by > > the disaster quickly found other ways to transmit. > > Electricity was still on and water still running > > all over New York except in the immediate area. > > There were no shortages of food or any other supplies. > > Hospitals weren't affected. Mail service wasn't > > interrupted except to and from the immediate area. > > > > The bridges were closed only temporarily, I believe > > only the first day. Roads weren't "clogged" any > > more than they usually are. > > > > As I said, New York's infrastructure, in stark > > contrast to that of New Orleans, was in working > > order *except* for the immediate area of the > > disaster. Most people's lives weren't affected > > at all, except psychologically. > > > > In other words, bad as it was, it was so different > > from New Orleans that your attempted comparison is > > just ludicrous. > > > > > Regardless, it is obvious that the disaster relief in NOLA is > NOT > > > working right. Should Big Brother in Washington be the one > > > responsible? > > > > > > I wonder whether if it were terrorists who blew up the 3 or 4 > levee > > > sections that appear to be the cause of all the flooding whether > it > > > would be the Feds who would everyone would be blaming? > > > > I imagine that if the feds' response was anything > > like what it has been in New Orleans, everybody > > would be blaming them for an incompetent relief > > effort, yes, indeedy. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
