Thanks Xeno. Good chart! (It didn't come out in the web client
at first, but now I have it).

I think I find myself without a paddle somewhere due South
of Nagel. I need a tow to a saner position. SOS.

(Some hope! At least half of the folks on the list aren't 
likely to bother, as apparently I have no S to S).

--- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
<anartaxius@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In [email protected], "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@>
> wrote:
> >
> > MIND AND COSMOS: WHY THE MATERIALIST NEO-DARWINIAN CONCEPTION OF
> NATURE IS ALMOST CERTAINLY FALSE by Thomas Nagel
> 
> 
> As a result of Robin's current fascination with Thomas Nagel ('Jason
> does not have a proper or objective measure of his own knowledge when
> placed against one of the world's greatest philosophers--whose *The View
> from Nowhere* is considered by some philosophers to be the most
> significant work of philosophy since World War II.'), I thought I would 
> post a diagram by Francisco Varela, a biologist, neuroscientist and
> philosopher. Varela's diagram below, shows the various philosophers that
> are promoting theories of consciousness on an axis of four basic types
> of theories, according to how Varela interprets their various stands on
> the issue. I am not arguing for or against a particular explanation
> here. I have culled definitions for the four kinds of expanatory
> theories that Varela used in case anyone is not familiar with them. I
> circled Varela and Nagel on the diagram. As this diagram was made in the
> mid-1990s, it is probably not fully up to date, and the positions of the
> authors of various theories on the diagram may have drifted a bit since
> then.
> 
>   [Theories of Consciousness by Francisco Varela]
> 
> Phenomenology is the study of structures of consciousness as experienced
> from the first-person point of view. The central structure of an
> experience is its intentionality, its being directed toward something,
> as it is an experience of or about some object. In its most basic form,
> phenomenology attempts to create conditions for the objective study of
> topics usually regarded as subjective: consciousness and the content of
> conscious experiences.
> 
> Functionalism is the idea that what makes something a mental state of a
> particular type does not depend on its internal constitution, but rather
> on the way it functions, or the role it plays, in the system of which it
> is a part, that mental states are constituted solely by their functional
> role, that they they are causal relations to other mental states,
> sensory inputs, and behavioural outputs. Functionalism is a theoretical
> level between the physical implementation and behavioural output.
> 
> Reductionism concerns the relations between different scientific
> domains. The basic question of reduction is whether the properties,
> concepts, explanations, or methods from one scientific domain can be
> deduced from or explained by the properties, concepts, explanations, or
> methods from another domain of science. In a practical sense this means
> a complex system is just the sum of its parts, and can be reduced to
> accounts of its individual constituents. For example, can chemistry be
> explained by quantum mechanics, or biology by chemistry and thence, by
> quantum mechanics?
> 
> Mysterianism is a position proposing that the hard problem of
> consciousness cannot be resolved by us, that we are cognitively closed
> to its solution. The unresolvable problem is how to explain the
> existence of qualia. (Qualia are the ways things seem to us, for
> example, the taste of cilantro - some people love it and some people
> hate it.)
>


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