I will just reply to this by again saying everyone believes what they want to believe - and since I obviously believe the TM Movement is and has been a corrupt organization for decades, what makes you think I would fall in love with David Lynch's outfit since they are merely an arm of TMO?
As to a couple other points, watch David Wants to Fly and you will see what Kaplan's beef was and is. It was simply that Maharishi told him and everyone else that if he had a pundit group of 10,000 it would create world peace - Earl gave him more than enough money and Maharishi didn't use it to create the group. In addition after he left Purusha, Bevan told him he could not live in his own house with a woman since the area had been dedicated to Purusha (or so I am told) after the Kaplan's told the Movement to shove it, Maharishi told everyone thru Bevan that this place was only for Purusha and retired people who meditated all the time - in other words no business was to be conducted - this after M had exhorted as many people as possible to move there and conduct their business and lives there - this included uprooting their children and taking them away from their friends and schools etc. to move them to Heavenly Mountain - so no business meant moving away for a lot of the dedicated Governors/Sidhas who wanted to honor M's directives. After they began to move, Bevan told everyone they should "sign their homes over to Purusha so that Purusha could get the benefit of the value of the property" If you think such as that is OK I think you should be employed full time by the TMO. If any of this about Heavenly Mountain is incorrect I will place a retraction in a future post - I have a friend who bought land in the development next to HM who was involved in some of this - a sidha who got to know both Kaplans (didn't like em much I think) but he had some facts - I will ask him when I see him. ________________________________ From: sparaig <lengli...@cox.net> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My feelings about David Lynch Foundation and the TMO --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Everyone believes what they want to believe. > > If you choose to believe that the TMO is no longer a money vacuum, be my > guest. > a more accurate term might be money-pit. > If the DLF is "hiring" TM teachers, then why are the rajas coordinating the > effort to get TM in schools? because, their mandate is to get as many people as possible to learn TM and when local TM teachers who run the local TM centers (whatever the name du jour is) have a guaranteed revenue stream for a year, that means that the center will be guaranteed to stay open for that year. > TMO & Lynch Foundation is hand in glove. (You can reference these documents > at your leisure if you choose when did I suggest otherwise? My point is simply about where the money goes. For the TM instruction, as far as I know, the TM teacher gets teh entire amount. While I am sure that there are other arrangements made for TM-Sidhis instruction that may give the TM organization a healthy cut of the income (perhaps as much as if they learned directly at MUM through the regular channels without DLF support), the mandate of the TM organizatoin is to get Maharishi Effect numbers of sidhas practicing together in every country in the world, so why does this probable factoid upset you? http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Domain_of_Atlanta_Directors_Meeting_Notes,_2005-2007) > Interesting reading. I didn't see any real "smoking guns" there, after reading every one of the files from that link (and all the other wikileak files on TM for that matter). You complained about the "revenue, revenue, revenue" comment, but look at the timeframe: A murder had just taken place at MUM for which MUM itself could be held 100% to blame on many different levels. MUM and the TM organization were forced to settle out of court, one assumes for a HUGE chunk of cash. THe documents also mention that "millions were lost" so I am pretty confident that this is a major factor in that remark about needing "revenue" to "balance the books." > I can't speak for the reasons Kaplan didn't sue the Movement although I can > speculate that its more difficult to sue to recover donations than it is to > recover business investments, more difficult to allege fraud especially when > the Indian TMO can mobilize large numbers of people at relatively short > notice to make it seem the pundit facilities in India are well populated as > apparently they did to produce footage that was aired at Bob Roth's little > get together to answer questions about the film David Wants to Fly. > I have never been to India, but recently, the Pandit website has started posting videos and blog entries from people who have visited the Brahmastanm and is inviting people to come there year-round, so it seems plausible that there are more pandits there now then there were during the filming of the movie. BTW, I thought the Kaplan's main complaint was about the selling of the mountain resort and how their money was diverted away from what it was origihnally intended for? Fact is, they could easily have sued the TMO over that but they did not, and for a very obvious reason: they owned property right next door which would have benefited directly from the continued presence of the TMO in the area. However, claiming tax deductions for donations of that sort is illegal since you are really investing in your own assets, albeit indirectly, so drawing legal attention to any informal or formal agreements concerning how the money was to be spent would have been very bad for them. another factoid is that the Kaplans were themselves being sued for fraud by the new owners of their former company, and had they involved themselves in iffy legal action against the TMO at that time, it would have made issues even worse for them in court. > Why would I sue the Movement over the MD donations? I never gave 'em any. > > They don't want to "eventually" get the students to take the sidhis, they are > getting them to meditate specifically to create sidhas (which for the TMO is > another word for paying customers) in other words they don't give a damn > about bettering their lives, they want to create revenue for the TMO. > That is always part of the equation. MMY has made it clear from the first publication of the SOBAOL that creating an organization viable for "generation after generation" has always been his goal. However, focusing on the students that are being taught the TM-Sidhis is ignoring the more obvious targets: the militaries and other governmental bodies in South America are evaluating the effects of TM and TM-Sidhis practice on soldiers and other government-paid groups. Teaching the TM-Sidhis to a bunch of orphans won't generate the same revenues as teaching the TM-Sidhis to every soldier in a South American country, so if you want to think purely in terms of dollars, that is where their focus should be. > Its not "lets teach them TM to make the world a better place and oh, yes > sidhi program will make their lives even better", it is "lets get them > meditating so we can get them buying all our other products" - as Raja Rogers > quoted the Big M - "Revenue, revenue, revenue." > See above about MUM lawsuit and needing to balance the books. I don't know that this is what they were talking about, but the timeline appears to fit perfectly. > > Don't know anything about Father Gabriel Meijas, you'll have to talk to him > about what he does and who pays for it. > We know that Father Meijas is a TM teacher himself, and the DLF collects money for his charities on their website. I would assume that some wealthy donor has been sponsoring the TM-Sidhis instruction for the kids who have learned. There's an article in global good news about one of the kids: http://www.excellenceinaction.globalgoodnews.com/2012/12-oct/oct10.html if you insist on being cynical about the motivations of people, at least acknowledge that there's a feel-good PR aspect involved with pointing to success stories like his. > If anyone can see the battle the Indian movement is having over property, > money and the disposition of Maharishis legacy and not see real energy that > created and is still running the Movement they have some mighty fine rose > colored glasses. > As I pointed out in another forum, such arguments are very common after a guru dies in India. The legal dispute about who is the really real Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath after Gurudev died lasted 40 years, and of course, it may still not be fully resolved.
