Mike, so what? So you start or run a business and some measure of what you make is taken from you and redistributed to others. And you don't like that so much that you won't do it? No one makes that type of decision. If you don't have the desire to run a business making a product or providing a service, then someone else who does have the desire, will. Some one else will be willing to spend the money and take the risk and accept the tax on all their work because even with all that, it's worth it to them to do it.
And if that's too much for you (the rhetorical "you") then you just didn't have enough desire to begin with. Butsomeone else does, and someone else will. Grousing because others outside your own perceived tribe will be beneficiaries to some degree of your labor -- I don't see that as much of a reason to not do business. And I don't think that businesses will close, or more importantly, never start because people are so vehement against sharing the wealth and success of their labors We are all in this together. We are all of the same species with all the same feelings and desires for ourselves and our families. We can extend our feelings of affection and trust to other human beings and we won't be hurt by doing that. We don't have to be miserly. We can be generous. *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@...> wrote: > > Why would anybody take their savings and barrow more to start a business if > it weren't going to be profitable? THAT is how wealth is created. Many people > spend enormous amounts of money and 60-70- hours a week or more building a > business before it ever becomes profitable. They take incredible risks > getting started and once they start turning a profit, should they > succeed, da gubmint steps in and demands a big cut, not just to run > government but to redistribute that wealth especially among those that have > no appreciation of how that wealth was created in the first place. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Wonâ"So I Fired 22 Employees > >  > > Yes, of course, it's all in the service of protecting profits, right?   > > > ________________________________ > From: Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@...> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Wonâ"So I Fired 22 Employees > >  > Nobody *owes* anybody a job. I guess the guy could have risked making his > company less profitable, endangering his investment and the jobs of the rest > of his employees. Jobs are not charity. > > > ________________________________ > From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Wonâ"So I Fired 22 Employees > >  > One day later he is worried about his "survival?"  What an idiot.  Just one > of the wealthy who has no intention of using his resources to create jobs or > care about his employees; he is demonstrating their stunted, fear-based, > emotional selves and are reacting completely irrationally.  I expect the > Koch Bros' industries to play a similar punishment game.  I'm sure they are > worried about their "survival" as well.   > > > ________________________________ > From: wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:14 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama Wonâ"So I Fired 22 Employees > >  > LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) â" A Las Vegas business owner with 114 employees > fired 22 workers today, apparently as a direct result of President Obama's > re-election (and Obamacare). "David" (he asked to remain anonymous for > obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that "elections have > consequences" and that "at the end of the day, I need to survive." Here's an > excerpt from the interview. Click the audio tab below to hear even more from > this compelling conversation: "I've done my share of educating my employees. > I never tell them which way to vote. I believe in the free system we have, I > believe in the right to choose who they want to be president, but I did > explain as a business owner that I have always put my employees first. I > always made sure that when I went without a paycheck that [I] made sure they > were paid. And I explained that I always put them first and unfortunately I'm > at a point where I'm being forced to have to worry about me > and my family now and a business that I built from just me to 114 employees. > "I explained to them a month ago that if Obama gets in office that the > regulations for Obamacare are gonna hurt our business, and I'm gonna have to > make provisions to make sure I have enough money to cover the payroll taxes, > the additional health care I'm gonna have to do, and I explained that to them > and I said you do what you feel like in your heart you need to do, but I'm > just letting you know as a warning this is things I have to think of as a > business owner. "Well unfortunately, and most of my employees are Hispanic > â" I'm not gonna go into what kind of company I have, but I have mostly > Hispanic employees â" well unfortunately we know what happened and I can't > wait around anymore, I have to be proactive. I had to lay off 22 people today > to make sure that my business is gonna thrive and I'm gonna be around for > years to come. I have to build up that nest egg now for the > taxes and regulations that are coming my way. Elections do have > consequences, but so do choices. A choice you make every day has consequences > and you know what, I've always put my employees first, but unfortunately > today I have to put me and my family first, and you watch what's gonna > happen. I'm just one guy with 114 employees â" well was 114 employees â" > watch what happens in the next six months. The Dow alone lost 314 points > today. There's a tsunami coming and if you didn't think this election had > consequences, just wait." >
