Many words, no wisdom.

--- In [email protected], Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote:
>
> I have looked at it quite a bit - I was merely pointing out that as far as I 
> can see, they only use TM as their modality - and if you believe that the Big 
> M was a great guy and all he did was and is good I can't help you - I know 
> the Lynch Foundation being a front for the TMO is gonna say they do grand 
> things, but from experience I am not so convinced that all their work is 
> good, nor that TM is as fine as they claim, and I am especially leery of 
> using TM as a remedy for PTSD - I know a bit about both TM and PTSD and given 
> the unstressing phenomenon that we all know exists I believe there are other 
> meditations that better fit the bill for people with combat related stress.
> 
> Of course you won't agree, but I believe it is neither childish nor cynical 
> to expect results when results are promised. It is not cynical to be honest 
> about a
>  group who has for years left a trail of unfulfilled promises with plenty of 
> bad behavior on top. I know that you and others like you like TM but to 
> believe all that is claimed for it is living a nice but child-like fantasy. 
> 
> We sit and use our TM mantra, we have experiences of clear transcending, 
> later we begin to have bliss, both in and out of meditation and experiences 
> of what have been described as CC, GC and UC. Thus we feel that it is all 
> Maha said it was and it will bring enlightenment. And we give a free pass to 
> M and his top people when their behavior belies the experiences we have 
> within - as in how can someone who has been meditating so long and 
> administers the Movement do something like that? We make innumerable excuses 
> for them. 
> 
> I once believed that Maha was enlightened and everything that the Movement 
> did was for the long range goal of global enlightenment and world peace. And 
> much of what he and the TMO did made no sense under
>  that belief. When I came to realize that Maharishi was not enlightened, he 
> had great charisma, great energy, lots of knowledge and in my opinion was a 
> genius in some respects, yet he was not enlightened and he was allowing his 
> ego to make what could have been a world changing movement into an ego based 
> structure to cater to his desire to be deified, flow money in large amounts 
> to him and get him all the ladies he wanted (yep, I believe that he did have 
> sex with lots of women, thanks in fact to my participation here on FFL) then 
> everything he and the movement had ever done made perfect sense.
> 
> The proof is in the pudding. If TM is as great as it is advertised - and mind 
> you I have had plenty of experiences of transcending, and lots of CC and GC 
> experiences and some Unity along the way since the first year or so of TM - 
> if it is as effective as advertised how do you explain the behavior of the 
> TMO leaders and not just the top level but pretty much all
>  the way through the organization? If TM brings one into Pure Awareness and 
> repeated experiences of same lead to the ego becoming erased and all thought, 
> feeling, desire and action is Cosmic in nature and upholds all the laws of 
> nature, why do so many of the TMO managers and leaders who have done TM for 
> decades consistently display unloving, non-compassionate and oftentimes 
> spiteful, deceitful controlling behavior? 
> 
> I feel that to ignore the fruits of the practice of TM which in this case is 
> behavior on the part of people you would expect to behave in a exemplary 
> fashion doing just the opposite, in fact displaying behavior which is not 
> life supporting is living a child-like fantasy - that we just do as we are 
> told, don't mind where the money goes and everything will be heaven in the 
> end. 
> 
> Apologies to those who like Wednesday to be reserved for things other than 
> this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: feste37 <feste37@...>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 5:51 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Foundation Online Auction
>  
> 
>   
> Have you even bothered to look at the David Lynch Foundation website? They 
> are doing an amazing amount of good work. You seem locked into a childish 
> cynicism that helps nothing and nobody, not even yourself. 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote:
> >
> > No they aren't - its just bullshit PR to make it look like they have a 
> > wider range of "modalities" to offer people - unless they are slyly 
> > referring to the ancillary programs of the TMO  - you know, levitation, 
> > Hindu fire offerings, climbing into a house through the east facing window 
> > cuz the house door faces south - stuff like that
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 2:37 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Foundation Online Auction
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The David Lynch Foundation raises funds and provide grants for the 
> > > implementation of scientifically proven stress-reducing modalities, 
> > > including Transcendental Meditation, for such at-risk populations. 
> > > 
> > > http://www.charitybuzz.com/auctions/dlf
> > >
> > 
> > What do they mean "including" TM? Surely they aren't backing two horses are 
> > they?
> >
>


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