God, what an insufferably narcissistic drama queen.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@...> wrote: > > Salyavin: > > Are you by any chance a clinical psychologist? You conduct psychotherapy? The only reason i ask is because of the thoughtful and complex reflections you share with us here on FFL--I am referring especially to your remarks about people. They are certainly sensitive and wise. > > Like this one. > > She said I mentally raped her. Her letters absolutely contradict this. > > She continues to discuss and describe me in psychopathological terms--as if I have been rendered speechless and helpless--that I cannot answer her. > > You were dead wrong about AWB--as your subsequently communication with her proved. (Although you would never acknowledge this.) > > This is classic Salyavin--and it is one of those impulses of yours which did not travel through the more subtle parts of your brain. > > I knew you would like that. > > Life will never ask you to bear anymore reality than you can, Salyavin. > > But this, this was a beaut. > > Thanks. > > Robin > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > > > > Share Long: > > > > > > Would you please state your reasons why you refuse to explain why you will not answer my question about the desirability of posting our personal correspondence--correspondence which is no different from the kind of interactions which take place here on FFL? > > > > Maybe she's realised no-one gives a shit. > > > > > > > You keep referring to me by name as if I were someone either dead, or in exile, or mute. You continue to discuss me, Share, and yet you will not let me show the world exactly what was said between us in those letters. > > > > > > In those letters we both attempted to understand each other. There was no insinuation of any kind of problem such as to make you say much later that I had violated you in some way. I find you innocently treacherous in all that you write about me, and I believe that posting that correspondence will allow everyone to understand what this matter is between you and myself. > > > > > > I ask that you answer my request sincerely, Share (You must have some valid reason for ignoring my question: please state it.). Until you do this I will continue to interpret your allusions to myself as a deliberate and provocative attempt to engage in a conversation which at one point I simply deemed pointless--As the record will show, Share, once I stopped writing to you, you continued to write to me. > > > > > > How about it, Share? Shall we put our cards out on the table? > > > > Please don't. > > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Judy, whatever the quality of Robin's intentions, they would have been under the influence of his self proclaimed state of mystical hallucination. Your ignoring, in relation to his intentions, that self proclamation of his perpetuates an aspect of hallucination into the PRESENT and is not IMO helpful in the present. This is what I am addressing, the present. Though I recognize that I've made some mistakes about all this and will probably do so again, I will continue to address issues if I think it is helpful to do so.    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: authfriend <authfriend@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:01 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of CULT > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > JS, > > > > > > > > My name is Judy. > > > > > > > > > I don't think that what Robin calls the mystical hallucination > > > > > of his UC could, from the POV of simple logic, give rise to > > > > > intentions which you describe as the absolute best and purest. > > > > > > > > I don't think the "POV of simple logic" (yours in particular) > > > > is adequate to address that highly unusual situation such as > > > > to be able to determine the nature of Robin's intentions. It's > > > > the wrong tool for the job. (And in this case, your contorted, spiteful personal animus toward Robin, which drives you to > > > > find his intentions less than good and pure no matter what, > > > > disqualifies you from having any useful insights into what was > > > > going on.) > > > > > > > > > Logic indicates simply that the intentions at their very > > > > > inception were based in hallucination. I think calling them, > > > > > especially in hindsight, the absolute best and purest > > > > > continues the hallucination in a small but significant > > > > > amount. Significant because that small amount exists in the > > > > > very core of the larger matter. Thus is useful IMO to be > > > > > named. > > > > > > > > I would not expect you to see things any differently, Share. > > > > Your propensity to rewrite reality to suit your own needs > > > > will not permit you to acquire a more subtle understanding > > > > of the complex metaphysics of what took place with Robin and > > > > his group. > > > > > > > > > Yes, the whole situation became confusing, agonizing and > > > > > eventually poignant. Even more reason to immediately name > > > > > the hallucination or delusion or pragyaparadh when it > > > > > appears so that unnecessary suffering can be avoided. > > > > > > > > And what is it that will do this "naming" for us, Share? > > > > > > > > Careful... > > > > > > > > > PS And yes again, I thought I was communicating with you and > > > > > Ann in my posts about Edwin Coppard's ideas. If you thought > > > > > I wasn't, how would you change what I wrote to make it fall > > > > > within your category of communicating? > > > > > > > > Not playing that game with you, Share. I asked a question, you > > > > answered it. I did not express an opinion. > > > > > > > > > From: authfriend <authfriend@> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:40 PM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of CULT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > > > Couple of comments below, Robin. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bill, > > > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > > Now since my enlightenment was a mystical hallucination, it > > > > > > meant that *the context which it gave birth to inside myself*, > > > > > > that too somewhere, no matter how true the process of > > > > > > confrontation and individuation appeared to be (and that > > > > > > process recreated reality, drove everyone into the deepest > > > > > > place one could ever go--and had ever gone), was untrue. **And > > > > > > what this meant--in the perspective after The Context was > > > > > > busted by a greater reality--was that this weakness in each > > > > > > person was simply what innocently each person had to do in > > > > > > order to survive as a human being inside the universe given > > > > > > that they were not perfect--and fallen. In other words, this > > > > > > salient and ultimate weakness was not to be confronted--not > > > > > > even to be revealed.** > > > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > JS: I don't think you've ever put it quite this way. > > > > > > > > > > I wasn't there, of course, but the more you tell us about > > > > > all this, the more poignant it seems--the hope, the > > > > > exhilaration, the absolute best and purest of intentions > > > > > driving it, the huge effort and energy expended, and then > > > > > the wrenching agony of confusion when it began to self- > > > > > destruct. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
