Thank you Steve for all your support. Hope you and family are well and happy. I very much regret having hurt Ravi's feelings.
________________________________ From: seventhray1 <lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 9:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Second Open Letter to Bill Howell, author of CULT Share, Always consider the source. As Ravi has said, much of his dysfunctionality is a matter of the public record, except for those posts (a considerable amount) he has managed to have expunged. He is on the record here, saying that he issued an ultimatum to his wife that she renounce Amma as her guru and instead accept him as her guru. So, as I've said, consider the source. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > Share - I have to add, your posts to this thread have hilarious in their > utter clueless-ness. > > You are not a person who has, so far shown any awareness, sensitivity, > maturity - intellectual and/or emotional, intelligence to understand the > nuances of any issue to be really compassionate. There is a difference > between fake niceness and genuine compassion - in the absence of above your > responses to Robin's posts come across as hilarious or malicious depending > on my mood. > > I would say you are very much like Barry except he is overtly mean and you > are not. Anyway I don't know what the sound of two paranoid, delusional > people conversing is - I don't think it's possible, they are too..well > paranoid and alike to get along with each other. So you are better off > spending your time on FFL chatting to people like LG, Xeno and others if > you don't want people to pile on you. > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: > > > > > > Judy, whatever the quality of Robin's intentions, they > > > would have been under the influence of his self proclaimed > > > state of mystical hallucination. Your ignoring, in relation > > > to his intentions, that self proclamation of his > > > > Of course, I don't "ignore" it. You say that without having > > any idea of how I view this: You just made it up. Typical. > > > > I *disagree* that Robin's intentions would have been affected, > > made somehow negative, by his enlightenment. I see no reason > > why that would have been the case. > > > > You are taking "delusion" and "hallucination" too literally; > > those terms are only very roughly approximate, because there > > simply is no vocabulary to describe what happened to him. > > > > He himself has said his enlightenment was *real*, so there's > > obviously a paradoxical element to this that you haven't > > bothered to take into account. > > > > > > > perpetuates > > > an aspect of hallucination into the PRESENT and is not IMO > > > helpful in the present. This is what I am addressing, the > > > present. > > > > Yes, I know you are. Your sole interest is in finding ways > > to portray him negatively *in the present*, and you'll make > > up whatever metaphysical "rules" you need to in order to do > > that. > > > > Your "perpetuate an aspect of hallucination into the > > PRESENT" doesn't make any sense. *You* don't even know what > > you mean by it. > > > > You have a desperate need to make Robin a Bad Guy to justify > > the disgusting way you've behaved toward him. > > > > I stand by what I said. The negative intelligences that > > brought about Robin's enlightenment *used* his good > > intentions--and those of everyone in his group--to further > > their own goals. That did not turn them into *bad* > > intentions. The bad intentions were those of the negative > > intelligences that took advantage of his innocence, his > > idealism, his loving nature, his desire to help others > > be the best they could possibly be. > > > > > > Though I recognize that I've made some mistakes > > > about all this and will probably do so again, I will > > > continue to address issues if I think it is helpful to do > > > so. > > > > Robin is a good and honorable man who treated you with > > fairness, respect, and compassion even after you turned > > on him. > > > > You can do nothing "helpful" where Robin is concerned other > > than wake up, smell the coffee, and acknowledge how > > appallingly badly and dishonestly you've treated him due > > to your inability to face your own weaknesses. If you are > > incapable of dealing with that reality, just keep your > > poisonous trap shut about him. > > > > You are the most toxic personality I have ever encountered. > > You make my skin crawl. > > > > And I notice you slithered away from responding to my > > question: > > > > > > > > Yes, the whole situation became confusing, agonizing and > > > > eventually poignant. Even more reason to immediately name > > > > the hallucination or delusion or pragyaparadh when it > > > > appears so that unnecessary suffering can be avoided. > > > > > > And what is it that will do this "naming" for us, Share? > > > > > > >