Nablusoss wrote: >>Once the chakras are open they're open. You've been rewired. Anyone who thinks they undid enlightenment were just confused and not enlightened in the first place.
Bhairitu wrote: >Well, that certainly is the understanding one has if one has studied with Maharishi, including myself. I posted the question to DR.Dumbass because he has shown to have profound understanding on the subject. I also wonder why this question did not arise as soon as Robin turned up on FFL with his story. Ann: I don't think determining what state of consciousness someone (including oneself) is functioning from is as easy as figuring out if one has the measles, a fever or AIDS. But if I read what many write here it is like this can all be categorized like some sort of yoghurt culture. What objective measurement is there to do such a thing?. There is no thermometer or blood test that can give anyone a reading. Putting these different states of consciousness into such tight knit categories seems way too simplistic and inflexible. It is the human brain we are speaking about here. There may be outside forces, effects, influences that could be said to 'encourage' enlightenment but ultimately these things act on the physical organ we call the human brain. That organ is incredibly adaptable, immeasurably mysterious, chemically balancing on the slightest potential for catastrophic fluctuations; who is to say what it can do, where it can take its recipient? Who is any expert here or anywhere? Who is to say things can not move in one direction and then change, morph, grow, regress? I just don't buy it. I don't believe the so-called states of consciousness can be put into little boxes where they sit like some encased specimens. How can they even be categorized at all, have names? For every individual who is allegedly in some "other" state they wouldn't all suddenly become clones of one another acting similarly, exhibiting the same interests, speech patterns, decisions, priorities so who is determining that Dick and Sally are both in UC? Certainly not Dick and Sally I hope. If Robin had never meditated or heard of MMY or sought out any spiritual path and he had had the experience he had in Arosa on that mountain during a hike with a friend I wonder what he would have thought happened. How would he explain it? How, in the innocence of having no knowledge that different states of consciousness might even exist, would he feel about how he was seeing the world? Would it be scary, beautiful, terrible? I only thought of this now, maybe he will tell us. And how about anyone else here who believes themselves enlightened? Can you imagine what it would have been like to have 'slipped' into another mental state but not have known anything about the fact/idea that these states existed? I know one thing though, I am in AC, anyone want to join me? It's pretty cool here.
