--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > I've been thinking about this ever since my > quip > > > > about it yesterday. The more I think about > the > > > > new primary focus of Maharishi and the TMO, > the > > > > more bizarre it gets. > > > > > > > > With TM, the "selling point" was always the > lack > > > > of a need for belief of any kind; you just do > it > > > > and the benefit accrues. This "selling point" > > > > > was boosted in the SIMS days by the addition > of > > > > scientific research that seemed to indicate > that > > > > yes, there indeed seem to be verifiable > benefits > > > > to practicing meditation. > > > > > > > > But now let's look at Sthapatya-Veda. It's > ALL > > > > belief, as far as I can tell. In all of the > > > > discussions here or a.m.t., I've never noticed > > > > mention of any kind of attempt at scientific > vali- > > > > dation of MSV's supposed benefits. I'd be > curious > > > > as to whether any such attempt has ever been > made. > > > > > > There's been attempts. They look at the robbery > rate > > > for businesses > > > with south-facing entrances vs other directions, > for > > > instance. > > > > This is known as "crap or joke science". The > > methodology of this type of "research" is so poor > that > > it means absolutely nothing. If one doesn't know > > anything about research it appears to be valid. > It's > > kind of funny, but I'm about to leave to teach my > > morning psychology class and this is what we're > going > > to start talking about today: what is scientific > > research. I might use the SV research as an > example of > > flawed research. > > > > What specifically is wrong withthe approach? Ican > thinkof plenty of > issues, but what are you thinking of that makes this > "junk science" > ratherthan quick and dirty pilot study? Because the "quick and dirty" pilot study is never used to justify a larger much more rigorous study. The pilot study is touted about as a rigorous study by the TMO. This becomes junk science, or more accurately, cult science. Pilot studies are used to justify the time and money spent on a rigorous study. Somebody might look at health claims and deaths in people living in SV housing and compare that to non-SV housing in comparable neighborhoods and find that there appears to be a statistically significant difference between the two groups. That is a quick and dirty pilot study. But for a rigorous study all other variables that could influence death and sickness rates (and there are many, many of these) need to be held constant across the compared groups. This can be done, but it would very time consuming and very expensive and the TMO isn't interested in doing this. They've got their "results" from the pilot study: ergo, cult science. They are not interested in discovering "fact", but in promoting their "cult". Too bad! > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
