--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], anonymousff
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > But Einstein's ideas evolved out of the very
> science that later 
> > embraced them and much later found evidence for
> them.
> > 
> > The SV mythology does not arise from such an
> evolution. Scientists 
> > do not necessarily want to take any old pie in the
> sky explanation 
> > for how things work and test it rigorously.
> 
> "Deva" is merely a place-holder word. You can
> substitute any set of 
> scientific terms you want. Science, the methodology,
> doesn't "care" 
> about terminology, only about results.

No, you are completely wrong here. The explanatory
concepts must make sense by having quantifiable
properties (i.e., open to measurement) and not be
simple metaphors or "placeholders". Placeholders for
what, reality?


> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], akasha_108
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the explanation. But of course as
> soon as
> > > > we enter the domain of "devas" we've got
> problems
> > > > Houston within a scientific paradigm. 
> > > 
> > > Because there are elements in the theory that
> are not (yet)
> > > observable? That does not seem to be a problem
> for hard core 
> > science. 
> > > 
> > > Black holes were predicted by Einstein's (and
> other's) work in the
> > > early 20's but were not "observed", albeit
> indirectly -- by
> > > implication, for 60-70 years. String theory's 13
> dimensions have 
> > not
> > > been observed, but a lot of high level physics
> focuses on such. A
> > > mechanism like DNA was postulated for some time,
> but was not
> > > "observed" until 1953. The Big Bang was not
> observed, but its a 
> > model
> > > that fits the observable evidence. 
> > > 
> > > Why then should a model of energy / information
> structures (aka 
> > devas)
> > > that "explain" observed phenomenon   be
> rejected? I know that 
> > there is
> > > "no" observed phenomenon yet, but if research
> did show a SV 
> effect,
> > > then  a model of priordial  energy / information
> structures is 
> not 
> > so
> > > wierd. And perhaps Science will then someday
> actual "observe" 
> > these 
> > > energy / information structures. Stranger things
> have happened in 
> > science.
> 
> 
> 
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