On 01/26/2013 12:58 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> On 01/26/2013 12:34 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
>> --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues"  wrote:
>>> Wow, I did not know that about them.
>> Yup, they were found, and then introduced to each other,
>> and then trained carefully, by Albert Grossman. He was,
>> possibly not coincidentally, the driving force behind
>> the success of Bob Dylan, Ian and Sylvia, Odetta, John
>> Lee Hooker in his later recording career, Phil Ochs,
>> Gordon Lightfoot, Richie Havens, The Band, the Electric
>> Flag, Jesse Winchester, and Janis Joplin.
>>
>> So again, how much was native talent, and how much of
>> it was a teacher noticing some degree of talent, and
>> turning it into something marketable?
> Actually the "training" or "production" was done by record producers who
> actually knew music and many of them classically trained.  Some like
> Alan Stanton ("The Byrds") and Rick Garrard ("Jefferson Airplane") were
> former high school band directors.  And then, of course, there was
> classically trained George Martin.  It not only takes an educated
> musical background to make amateurs sound like pros but a lot of
> psychology.  And some of these musicians had formal training too but
> record companies liked to hide that fact back then.  Not so these days
> as Lady Gaga has a formal music education and it is touted.

BTW, I should mention that the group I played in when I first lived in 
California in Mill Valley briefly in 1969-70 played all of one gig at 
the Lion's Share in San Anselmo.  Then the band broke up over a spat 
between the guitar player and bass player.  A couple days later I had a 
call from Albert Grossman's office.  He had heard the air check tape of 
the gig and was interested in signing us. Unfortunately I had to inform 
them that the band had broke up.  A couple years ago the bass player 
from that band found me on the Internet.  He never new that Grossman was 
interested and was flabbergasted.

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