Richard it's long overdue for me to tell you that I often enjoy your posts.  I 
love the idea that we're all enlightened when we're born.  But in another post 
you say that there's no difference between enlightened and unenlightened.  Did 
a brain neuron of mine not fire?

 From: Richard J. Williams <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Response to Turq's Ideas on Unstressing


> > > Practicing sadhana for years and not being enlightened
> > > would be a little like taking guitar lessons for years
> > > and still not being able to play anything.
> > >
> > According to Tantra, *practice* is the enlightened state;
> > it's not a state other than normal state of awareness,
> > since you were enlightened from birth. Sitting in
> > meditation is what Siddhas do.
> >
> There is no point in doing sadhana if you are 
> enlightened from birth...
All Sddhas meditate every day even after they realize
that they have been enlightened since birth. You can
be in an enlightened state, but you still need to burn
up your accumulated karma. Siddhas do this and call it
'tapas' in order to burn up the residual samskaras, in
order to avoid future rebirth.

The historical Buddha lived to be eighty years old and
he meditated every day, even though he became a Buddha
at age thirty-two. Why? 

Sitting in a meditative pose IS the enlightened state!

"If your mind is able to settle naturally of its own 
accord, and if you find you are inspired simply to rest 
in its pure awareness, then you do not need any method 
of meditation."

'The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying'
Rigpa: The Stages of Meditation 
By Sogyal Rinpoche 
HarperSanFrancisco, 1992 


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