--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So you are saying that the practice of this knowledge of > >> Sri Vidya didn't exist prior? > >> > Sri Vidya, the Audicious Wisdom, has existed since the dawn of human > conciousness, however as a tantric cult it dates from the eight > century in India durng the time of the Sahajyas and mahasiddhas. > > > The only means of liberation is the Grace of Guru. > > > That's tantra - but it's very difficult to find a true guru in this > age, that's why the tantras were prepared and desciminated.
There is a TRUE guru walking the planet. The Adiguru Lord Dattatreya's Avatara Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji. Greater scholars than those perported in this forum have attempted to prove otherwise. Wanna make and attempt? Dattatreya must be familiar to you? > > From His mouth these ears heard the following words,"Practice of > > tantra keeps one tied to the earth, Swamiji's way is Vedic way > > not tantric." > > > So, Swamiji doesn't agree with the Shankaracharya of Sringeri? You can read for yourself what the Shankaracharya of Sringeri said when the Shankaracharya visited Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji in Mysore. Note who visited who. http://www.dattapeetham.com/india/latest/2002/april/sringeri/report.htm > > >> People nowadays can't read or write Sanskrit and thus they > >> can't access the scriptures; > > > > This is not true. > > > So you're a Sanskrit reader and you can read the tantras. Why then > would you need a guru if you're already literate? The answer I gave does not make the claim that I could read Sanskrit. I do see written above your claim that people can't read it. According to Shankara one needs initiation from Guru in order to gain liberation. > > >> real gurus are hard to find; > > > > This is true. REAL gurus find their devotees at the proper time. > > > >> and hardly anyone gets a shaktipat anymore; all we have > >> now are the tantric techniques. > > > > Again believe what you will. > > > >> Everyone meditates on something - that's why they call it > >> meditation. > > > > Point is what is to meditate upon when Fullness is the reality? > > > According to Shankaracharya of Sringeri, sadhaks should meditate on > the Sri Vidya bija-mantras. I thought we were talking about Sri Brahamananda Saraswati's meditations. No denial about the sadhakas. > > > Then again, what do I know. > > > >> So, yes I do believe, based on the available evidence, that > >> Swami Brahmanand Saraswati probably meditated on the Sri > >> Chakra, just like all of the other Dasanamai Saraswati > >> Sannyasins do. > >> > > This I do not doubt. Does it mean that an ordinary Joe gains > > liberation from performing this puja? > > > Meditation and puja or any other technique does not bring liberation - > they only provide the opportunity for transcending. > > > It is doubtful that anyone but these swamis can properly perform > > such, and if a Joe attempted would likely bring about more > > disasterous results than positive. > > > Anyone who can think can meditate using the tantric bija-mantras. Again, the point was about proper (improper) performance of puja and not meditating. > > > His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru. Then what > > is the use? All these are a waste. > > > Most of us don't live in India, therefore we can't sit at the feet of > your Swamiji and get the shaktipat. Your statement is a very revealing one. Guru cannot be limited to the physical form. The sloka says: "His mind doesn't set at the feet of Guru." Sri Swamiji has been around the world over 65 times. It wasn't in India where He became available to this sadhaka. He is available through His music and thousands of songs containing these bijas to which you refer. His music is most beautiful, His voice divine, so many songs to Devi. Tantra...Veda... the line is definitely very very thin. Dattatreya's ways are very tricky and not for everyone. Jaya Guru Datta Hari Om Tat Sat ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
