--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote:
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> 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wool over my eyes?  what part of my post in that first paragraph is untrue? 
> > (or was it a subsequent paragraph?) Some of it is opinion and gut instinct, 
> > but the defecit numbers and his claim of reducing the deficit 5 trillion 
> > are fact.  Moreover, I can't say I've heard him speak of any subject where 
> > I really felt he knew in depth what he was talking about.  He is simply 
> > fluent in his speech and more balanced in how he presents things, which is 
> > what assists him in looking like an expert. 
> > 
> > Is there something about BHO that makes you feel (or know) that
> > he is thoroughly informed and knowledgeable about in terms of
> > its effect on the entire country?
> 
> Um, no, but I don't believe I've suggested that he is. I'm
> not a big fan of his by any means.
> 
> My problem is with the dangerously simplistic, demonstrably
> inaccurate, and frequently deceptively promoted (not by you)
> notion that our biggest problem is the deficit rather than
> the lack of demand generated by the financial crisis that
> happened under Bush.
> 
> Even Obama appears at times to buy into this notion, at
> least for public consumption. 

Judy admits!!! Obama is a phony! "For public consumption"?  Right on Judy, I 
always knew you weren't a total idiot.





ut the U.S. is not in any way
> like a household that needs to "tighten its belt." That's a
> thoroughly bogus and destructive analogy, whoever is making it.
> 
> Cutting back on spending is not the answer, both because it
> will do yet more damage to the economy (look at the results
> of the "austerity" programs abroad) and because in the present
> situation, more deficit spending to increase demand, which
> is just about the only thing that will really *help* the
> economy, is not even remotely the disaster it's portrayed
> as, not with interest rates and inflation as low as they
> are, with no indications they're going to rise 
> significantly anytime soon.
> 
> Fixing the economy has to come *first*, before we'll be in a
> position to tackle the deficit without doing irreparable
> harm. Reversing that order would be the real disaster.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Not trying to propose a nasty 'Turq' like argument.  I'm genuinely curious 
> > to find out what it is that BHO is an expert of in terms of national level 
> > decisions.  You can exclude his military decisions since i've already 
> > expressed that he's been, for the most part, far in the positive side of 
> > that.  
> > 
> > seekliberation
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush 
> > > > level of incompetence.  I will say, however, he is a 100 times 
> > > > better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush.
> > > > Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much
> > > > of a narcissist he was.  Obama plays it much cooler.  But when 
> > > > someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a
> > > > claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim
> > > > that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is 
> > > > clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing.
> > > 
> > > Or, whoever has been writing whatever you've been reading
> > > either has no idea what they're talking about or is pulling
> > > the wool over your eyes.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B 
> > > > or B- is his handling of the military.  Unfortunately for many Soldiers 
> > > > and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps 
> > > > over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger 
> > > > forces that result in more money spent and more casualties.  Dems, 
> > > > OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale 
> > > > operations.  They only use the more professional units to accomplish 
> > > > the bare minimum it takes.  That is how Obama has been dealing with 
> > > > terrorism.  Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the 
> > > > snakes in the grass.  Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people 
> > > > die.  It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to 
> > > > infantry units.  
> > > > 
> > > > But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I 
> > > > don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little.  The 
> > > > reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the 
> > > > icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'.  All talk, all reliance 
> > > > on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but 
> > > > no real depth of character that I can see in either one.  
> > > > 
> > > > seekliberation
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Errrr...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama
> > > > > fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere
> > > > > near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to 
> > > > > apply himself prior to his political career.  He had to live off his 
> > > > > father's money and reputation.  BHO never really held a major 
> > > > > responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political 
> > > > > career.  Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed 
> > > > > by any depth of experience.  BHO is at least a good speaker, but 
> > > > > that's about it.  This is Modern America at its finest.  All outward 
> > > > > appearance, no substance.  And this is all we look for in politicians 
> > > > > these days, this is what we find attractive.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > seekliberation
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, 
> > > > > > > today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, 
> > > > > > > with his staff. Right now. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > > > > > > <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--"If it was
> > > > > > > > > good enough for God..."
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I kid you not.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, 
> > > > > > > > Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much 
> > > > > > > > just a phony, watch him squirm.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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