Dear Share, you forgot the H.  Love and light, Emily


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> From: authfriend <authfri...@yahoo.com>
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:37 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, 
>Pros and Cons]
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>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
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>> Right. Like you're so objective. But what is very funny is
>> your accusing me of not having the most active sense of
>> humour. One, because I do and I express it often here. And
>> two, because you don't. IMO.
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>Let's just say there is no consensus here on either count.
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>> ________________________________
>>  From: Ann 
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM
>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, 
>> Pros and Cons]
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>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
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>> > So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?  Right.  
>> > I thought not.  Even though it was obviously way over the top.  And 
>> > it is the one that prompted Steve to respond to Ravi.  But right, focus 
>> > on Steve and me and our alleged wrong doings.  Dredge up the past if 
>> > need be.  But definitely ignore Ravi's extreme over reaction.  So 
>> > much for friend's being able to speak frankly with each other.  
>> 
>> Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous because 
>> it was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less than 'over 
>> the top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the most active sense 
>> of humour, especially when something is directed at you. You like to 'play' 
>> but only when it deflects or is a way for you to skirt around things. Still, 
>> you do have your supporter in Steve so that is nice for you. He is very 
>> staunch.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Judy to Ravi in Mission
>> >  Accomplished thread:
>> > 
>> > Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to
>> > speak frankly to those we care about.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ________________________________
>> >  From: Ravi Chivukula 
>> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
>> > Attention, Pros and Cons]
>> > 
>> > 
>> >   
>> > Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door
>> > 
>> > 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep
>> > 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep
>> > 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep
>> > 
>> > Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share?
>> > 
>> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long  wrote:
>> > 
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>> > >  
>> > >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley 
>> > >smile (-:
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>> > >
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: Ravi Chivukula 
>> > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM
>> > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
>> > >Attention, Pros and Cons]
>> > > 
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >  
>> > >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them."
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector 
>> > >of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are 
>> > >hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need 
>> > >to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been 
>> > >reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no 
>> > >longer you are one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth 
>> > >and start your own cult O' Wise lady.
>> > >
>> > >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > >>  
>> > >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of 
>> > >>consciousness.  Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot 
>> > >>say that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and 
>> > >>astral realms.  The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according 
>> > >>to them.
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>> > >>________________________________
>> > >> From: "doctordumbass@" 
>> > >>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM
>> > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second 
>> > >>Attention, Pros and Cons]
>> > >> 
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>  
>> > >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels 
>> > >>our consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the 
>> > >>same thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one 
>> > >>gets from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like 
>> > >>peyote (ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that 
>> > >>world, according to your level of consciousness at the time. 
>> > >>
>> > >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral 
>> > >>manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe 
>> > >>of subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full 
>> > >>scope of Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, 
>> > >>kinda like in "real" life.
>> > >>
>> > >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, 
>> > >>most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the 
>> > >>consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial 
>> > >>world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like 
>> > >>anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, 
>> > >>and freedom of motion.
>> > >>
>> > >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended 
>> > >>solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will 
>> > >>probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and 
>> > >>criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly 
>> > >>called "the astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a 
>> > >>subset, based on limited access.
>> > >>
>> > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Freebie from Doc:
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" - 
>> > >>> lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have 
>> > >>> a low consciousness. 
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be 
>> > >>> avoided for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to 
>> > >>> profit, but that's about it.
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>> > >>> >
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>> > >>> > 
>> > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric 
>> > >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it 
>> > >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? 
>> > >>> > 
>> > >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did 
>> > >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral 
>> > >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking 
>> > >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. 
>> > >>> (schnipp)
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