--- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So turquoise, did MMY make you a 'knower of reality', (popular MMY > > > > expression at humbolt courses)? I didn't know what it meant at first, > > > > but finally it dawned, ya, MMY did make me a 'knower of reality'. Just > > > > enough experience to realize the underlying reality of life, pure bliss > > > > or what MMY said, "everybody's inner being is pure happiness". > > > > > > > > I appears he did because you still have an interest in eastern > > > > religions, and you acknowledge that MMY did indeed do some good in the > > > > world. > > > > > > > I do not know what turquoiseb would say to this, but inner being as bliss > > > is just a temporary stage. It is not stable. This is CC. For unity, the > > > inner and the outer cease, inner life will go down the tube, come to an > > > end, and be replaced with something more interesting, more connected, > > > more seamless, contiguous, and mysterious, because there is no way to > > > understand it. It does not even matter to consider it real or not because > > > there is nothing left to find. > > > > > > > Sorry, but i think you're wrong. Unity is eternal ever new bliss what the > > ved called 'sat chit ananda', that is the experience. To define the nature > > of Brahman is a different > > subject. > > Are you saying I am mixing up unity with Brahman? Could be, I am not really > making a lot of distinction between them, it's a mush. Are you experiencing > what you are calling unity, or just defining it here? >
Clearly, just defining it. As MMY wrote in the Gita, "It should be noted that it is contact that is infinite joy, and not Brahman itself". "Brahman is that which cannot be expressed in words, even though the Upanishads use words to educate us about Its nature." > Definitions tend not to work for people experiencing these 'states', but can > be really useful for people who want to experience them, because it gives > them an impetus to have that experience, but definitions fall by the wayside > if the experience dawns, unboundedness has no edges to grasp, to define, so > sat or chit or ananda, who cares? The ved becomes like a well surrounded by > water on all sides, as it says in the Bhagavad-Gita. It all drowns in > unboundedness. > > Definitions are not bad. It's great fun, an immense challenge trying to > define what is essentially undefinable. A lost cause, like trying to climb a > mountain of infinite height. Doomed to failure, but what a view! You nailed it!
